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Old 16-11-2008, 14:50 Original language: Russian        #1
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This debate will never end. It is not art, but in the ideology of each party to the dispute. Who's lives spiritually, he even loves ... Who likes bright "Jack of Diamonds", and who somber Rabin. This is a matter of taste. But agree, even by academics, social realism technique is much higher than any nonconformists. So painting class above! Compare the "Lilac" Konchalovsky and any nonconformists. And tell me one you like more? Be honest ... I will never believe that the recent dullness better spirits first. What's on the walls hang himself - Grabar or Krasnopevtsev? Just fashion last three to five years dictated the market demand for non-conformism, he grew up, grew and prices. Now as far as going out of the global crisis and the fashion will go. It is unfashionable "emergency preparedness" and fashionable "post-crisis." A historical painting, and is no way Socialist Realism remains, now and in the future. He is always fashionable, he willingly buy and collect. This Russian art, and not brought from outside the fashion trends.



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What's on the walls hang himself - Grabar or Krasnopevtsev?
Not all art is made for the decoration of the Soviet small apartments.

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He is always fashionable, he willingly buy and collect.
While. But the generation of these buyers and collectors go away soon with the art market, and following that socialist realism is certainly not interesting.



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Old 16-11-2008, 15:38 Original language: Russian        #3
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follows this socialist realism will certainly not interesting.
I would say with accuracy naoborot.Kak time to read it and will be interesting. The current generation unfortunately lost generation, it is too corrupt.



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Not all art is made for the decoration of the Soviet small apartments.
Right. Or two-meter Grabar Nalbandian did not decorate. In public places, they look better. Nonconformism to Brezhnev kitchens sprang up and just in spirit, and this fits kitchens, and the era.
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But pokalenie these buyers and collectors go away soon with the art market, and following that socialist realism is certainly not interesting.
Well we will not forward to 50 years to look, though anyone interested in such a time recognize the classics. And today the number of collectors of this direction is increasing, because is the most affordable. How many are collectors of Russian art 19-th century Russian avant-garde, non-conformism? There are three to five people, not more. I gather they are Russian and Ukrainian classics of the 19 th century. But there are many Socialist Realism, and you have my opinion too.
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some creative non-conformists, to my liking, in particular
Do you like Mickey Mouse Kosolapova?? It seems age is not the same



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in the ideology of each party to the dispute. Who's lives spiritually, he loves it ..
Sergey, I would like to clarify some of the creative non-conformists, to my liking, in particular:
Alexander Kosolapov --
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=82
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Vladimir Slepian
  http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=80
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  Michael Roginskii -
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=65
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Viktor Pivovarov
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=60
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Nemukhin Vladimir
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Infante, Francisco
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Kharitonov, Alexander (1931-1993)
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=39
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But pokalenie these buyers and collectors go away soon with the art market
Dear Cyril, they just come, art business with the Soviet painting is just beginning .. still to come ..



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they only come, art business with the Soviet painting is just beginning .. still to come ..
We and the market generally appeared yesterday (market economy), and only market the arts in general, still in the bud. Your favorite Sovkom formed in 2004, yesterday, by the standards of Western auction houses. And not the fact that it will be tomorrow.
We do a half-auction houses throughout the vast country.
Why so little?
Art market there that is why ...
Let's see what will be next year. Will all buy art in Russia.



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We and the market generally appeared yesterday (market economy), and only market the arts in general, still in the bud. Your favorite Sovkom formed in 2004, yesterday, by the standards of Western auction houses. And not the fact that it will be tomorrow.
We do a half-auction houses throughout the vast country.
Why so little?
Art market there that is why ...
And then the market of art, and art in its pure form. you get to the market of art begets art, but that is not so. this market and spawn us today artisans.



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Will do buy art in Russia.
Cyril, well, not Gazprom shares, or popular "VTB 24", there is loss for the year is 70%.
  Art has always brought profit and more ..
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Do you like Mickey Mouse Kosolapova?? It seems age is not the same
Sergey I still young .. so live to your age, probably tastes vary ..



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Eugene,
Well, Mickey Mouse is the same ideological enemies! With their Donald Duck, Spider-Man and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Now if he Kolobkov painted, well, or Emel and Ilya of Murom, it just would have been ours, socialist nonconformist



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SergeiSK, Alexander Kosolapov long lived in the U.S., well, and who pays orders the music and ..



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