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is widely sweeps you,
I think it would be correct to say "Mosque", no?



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I think it would be correct to say "Mosque", no?
I do not know, I would like to use the verb - "revenge" (Metuji, metesh, swirls, metem, sweeps, sweep), but not "throw", but maybe I'm on the right. Unfortunately, not always possible to avoid embarrassment in the Russian language - not too long ago I live in Russia. Please pardon me (have you seen, I also know how glamorous).



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I would like to use the verb - "revenge"
So I misunderstood you. I thought that it was the second verb you want to use. Sorry. : shy:



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once again the case of counterfeit Yablonska (I think this is the latest information for today):
link to the article and photos of paintings:
http://www.cripo.com.ua/?sect_id=4&aid=48617

So who robbed the artist Yablonsky? Part two: the courts guard crime 04.02.2008 08:59 ( "Criminal Ukraine")
  ... Summer of 2006 Gayane Atayan filed in the Shevchenko district court of Kyiv action to protect the right to dignity and honor of his mother Tatiana Yablonska. Defendants on the new suit is the Kiev Museum of Russian Art and Gallery "Estamp. Subject fraud in the Ukrainian art market has become public.
The second appeal to the court

Filing a claim was accompanied by a press conference in UNIAN, on the topic of fraud in the Ukrainian art market. His position was expressed by art critic and journalist Natalya Romanova, a lawyer, descendants of the artists whose names are on exhibition from private collections "were signed fakes: the grandson of Sergei Grigoriev, Ivan Grigoriev, daughter of Vladimir Kostetskii Olga Kostetskaya and daughter Tatiana Yablonska Gayane Atayan. On the screen were shown some of the forgery and the original, was held to a comparative analysis. The journalists were curious to see how a copy of the located in the Russian Museum of St. Petersburg is very famous painting of Isaac Levitan "pond choked, 1887. Suddenly turned into a work of Ukrainian artist Sergey Grigoryev, and gained the name" backwater ". The interest aroused and the comparison of the two paintings "The Wedding of Tatiana Yablonska - the original, located in the Kharkiv Art Museum, and the falsification of the exhibition from private collections. Model shoes of 2000, will appear instead of tarpaulin boots on his feet groom, ribbons on the wreath of the bride, copied "for the cell, the lack of a few arms and legs have guests coming for the young gay crowd - those few signs of vividly illustrated the audience that" Wedding "from private collections could not be the author.
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Tatiana Yablonskaya. "Wedding", 1963 (original)

"Wedding", 1960 (forgery or failure of restoration) from the catalog of the exhibition "Ukrainian Painting 1945-1989 period. From private collections.

"Sednev, 1967 (forgery" under Yablonskii ") From the catalog of the exhibition" Ukrainian Painting 1945-1989 period. From private collections.

"At the Bazaar", 1964 (forgery "under Yablonsky") From the catalog of the exhibition "Ukrainian Painting 1945-1989 period. From private collections.

Collection of party cells ", 1950. (forgery "by V. Kostetskii"). From the catalog of the exhibition "Ukrainian Painting 1945-1989 period. From private collections.

Grigoriev. "Morning on the Lake, 1976 (original)

I. Levitan. "Pond choked, 1887

A copy of a painting by Levitan "pond choked" (1887). In the exhibition catalog, this copy is called a "backwater", (1950). Authorship attributed Grigoryeva.

The information on this subject is widely voiced on television and radio, has appeared in many newspapers.

The trial lasted several months. However, this action, which demonstrated an absolute unwillingness to reckon with the existing rules of law and act according to logic and common sense, can hardly be called a serious trial.

First of all, the court was not taken into account the opinion of the "author" of controversial paintings of the late T. Yablonska.

Staff gallery "Estamp" provide the court with some documents, calling them expert advice. The documents were signed by the chemist L. Luginov and contained information of this kind: "in painting used zinc white. Zinc oxide is the most popular whitewash, so this feature can not be invoked to determine the authorship of paintings. Regarding one of the disputed works employees Gallery "Estamp" argued that there is a certificate of authenticity, issued by the National Art Museum. This document during the trial because no one saw was not named and the names of experts allegedly signed the purported conclusion. The documents on which it was concluded that authorship of one of the disputed works were even allegedly issued by the Organizing committee of the Union of Artists of Ukraine passport works and pass. These papers and the court were not presented. However, the court readily satisfied with the conclusions of the chemist L. Luginov, as well as information about the existence of some anonymous expert opinion and dubious passports and identification cards.

Everyone is clear that in the event of litigation expertise relies conducted separately and independently, in the Forensic Institute, with the assistance of reputable specialty occupations. And the study of painting is the best chemist still not replace art historians. But in vain lawyers representing the direction T. Yablonska, many times persistently tried to convince the judge to the need for an independent examination. This question, never opened, the court was safely closed.

On the other hand, his opinion on the paintings attributed to T. Yablonska, provide the court with those who can rightly be regarded as an authority - art historians to work seriously with this material, the artists who are familiar with the author's handwriting T. Yablonska. Here are some of them: Ludmila Kowalska - curator of personal exhibitions T. Yablonska since 1981, held at the National Art Museum of Ukraine, the author of the article to the directory of personal exhibitions T. Yablonska 2002 "Pori rock, head of the department of art of XX-XXI cc. National Art Museum of Ukraine, Honored Worker of Culture of Ukraine, Nadezhda Yurasovskaya - Ph.D., Senior Researcher at the Department of Painting 2 nd half of the twentieth century, the State Tretyakov Gallery, Igor Bugaenko - author-compiler of the album on creativity Yablonska 1991; Alexander Solovyov - lyricist to Directory of personal exhibitions T. Yablonska 1987 and several journal articles on T. Yablonska; Andrew Chebykin - President of the Academy of Arts of Ukraine; artists pupils T. Yablonska: Sergei Odaynik, Lyudmila Krasyuk, Tatiana Laryushina. Each expressed his vision of the disputed works, but in one of their views coincided: data products for obvious external signs do not correspond to creative handwriting T. Yablonska, there are serious doubts about their authenticity. All experts felt it necessary to conduct an independent examination. Unfortunately, the court disregarded their views.

The only art historian, who argued during the trial that the author of the disputed paintings is T. Yablonskaya, was director of the gallery "Estamp" Olga Sagaidak. Her opinion was for the judge more convincing than the opinion of the "author", T. Yablonska, and more persuasive than the opinions of many respected scholars creative artist. The judge was not confused by the fact that art O. Sagaidak never engaged directly creativity T. Yablonska - not organized exhibitions of her works, was not albums, not to write articles.

One of the main arguments of the gallery staff was: "controversial works are copyrighted works Yablonska, as in preparation for the exhibition they have passed through the hands of many professionals." Had in mind primarily the hands of specialists Kiev Museum of Russian Art. However, during the trial, no expert from Kiev Museum of Russian Art is not expressed his personal views on the subject, a museum, in principle, denied authorship of the theme presented at an exhibition of paintings. The position of the museum was as follows: "We only provided for the exhibition walls, concluding with a gallery of the tenancy agreement, expertise exhibited works of the museum did not hold and carry no obligation, and therefore not responsible for their authenticity. That's apparent primitive scheme of legalization fraud: a commercial gallery, exposing fraud in the State Museum, for no reason uses the museum as a kind of official stamp, the museum gives his tacit consent, while not for anything in response.

As a result of the disputed paintings shown on television in Yablonska suddenly arose an interesting witness - the artist Alexander Shulgan. While watching television footage of one of the works attributed Yablonska, A. Shulgan recognize his own student's sketch. In 1995, the studio A. Shulgan robbed, in connection with a robbery in the Podolsk district court in Kiev in the criminal case. One of the stolen etudes A. Shulgan turned into "work Yablonska" and was called "Збір harvest. Alexander Shulgan accurately remembered the time, place, and some of the circumstances behind the writing of this scene, called those who could confirm his authorship. It was all very accurately described in a statement. Statement A. Shulgan was transferred to the court. But the court did not consider it necessary to take note of it.


"Harvest", 1960. In the exhibition catalog authorship attributed Tatiana Yablonska. In fact - the work of artist Alexander Shulgan

In general, all information emanating from the plaintiff, the court completely discarded. And all that the defendants have argued blindly taken for granted.

Decision Shevchenko district court of Kiev in the case Yablonska (Judge N. Ignatchenko) was taken October 2, 2006 in favor of the Kiev Museum of Russian Art and Gallery "Estamp.

October 25, 2006 Director of the Kiev Museum of Russian Art Yuri Vakulenko in the museum held a press conference where he presented the decision of the court reporters. Director of the museum began a lengthy discourse about the long examination in general, modestly silent about whether to hold an independent examination of the disputed paintings in the trial. Touched upon the theme of the art market works. But the basic content of what has been enthusiastically voiced by Mr. Vakulenko, has many allusions to the dirty Gayane and late Tetyana. Again actively rang favorite medical subject. However, it is not clear on what grounds Mr. Vakulenko, never personally had no contact with T. Yablonska, allowed himself to draw conclusions about the state of her health. The immediate subject of litigation - the authorship of four paintings attributed to T. Yablonska - was for Mr. Director junk. The answer to a direct question from a journalist "So that was it - original or fake?" Yu Vakulenko declined, citing the fact that at that time in the museum did not work and these paintings are not seen. With its decision in the hands of the court decision in favor of the museum and gallery director of the Museum of Russian Art, he's an expert Yuri Vakulenko for some reason did not dare say aloud the words "They were works of authorship of Tatiana Yablonska. And to the question "Do you, as director of the museum is not interested in knowing what it was?" Response from Yuri Vakulenko followed simply wonderful: "Yes it is, in general, not so important!".

October 31, 2006 at a press conference in UNIAN was voiced by the position of the opposite side of litigation. Lawyers, art critic Alexander Soloviev, Alexander Shulgan artist and daughter of T. Yablonska Gayane Atayan expressed their disagreement with the decision of the court and informed the journalists details of the proceedings. In particular, it was that the court was not taken into account the main argument - T. Yablonska opinion, was not carried out an expert examination of controversial works, a judge alone deciding on the authorship of paintings, had no basis for that. The most shocking information was the story of a witness in the case of artist Alexander Shulgan.


By the spring of 2007 it passed Yablonska all courts in Ukraine. The Court of Appeal of Kiev and the Ukrainian Supreme Court, almost without studying the case, confirmed the decision of the Shevchenko district court.

In autumn 2007, the documents were handed the case to Strasbourg, the European Court of Human Rights.

Revelation Dmitry Tabachnik

In the magazine Antiques »№ 14 in December 2007 appeared a curious material: an interview with Dmitry Tabachnyk" nobles with commoners do not shoot. Here is a fragment:
"... After an exhibition of paintings from private collections neurotic daughter of a well-known Ukrainian artist arranged infamous tantrum over the fact that the work of her mother, who exhibited at the exhibition, are not authentic. It is interesting that this scandal is not raised, not scared, but laugh all the owners submitted to the sensational exhibition of paintings. Because three of the four owners of the exhibited works bought from most of the artist. A strong desire not to have inherited the talent of the parent of children "pass through itself" all the creative legacy of their famous parents understand. It is a reliable source of income when you inadvertently and wrongly assumed the right to speak - the original or a fake. In varying degrees, thus hunted almost all of the relatives of famous Ukrainian artists. It got to the point that we have been assured of the authenticity of the paintings, which were written by the author, after several strokes. It turned out that the person who is unable to keep the cup in his hands, wrote meter pastels. Do not want to name names of these descendants, but the rat race does not do them honor ...
Another example. One of the journalists well-known Ukrainian Internet publication written, that Dmitry Tabachnik after leaving the Cabinet of Ministers in 2005, left on the wall of the breech now Tatiana Yablonska. And, as a conclusion worthy of his Neanderthal intelligence - it is, say, not real Yablonskaya, because this picture of me and not interested in leaving his office, I left it on the wall. Logic, indeed, at the level of reflexes Pavlov! Perhaps this amazing journalist, but remained in the cabinet and other items: state-owned chairs, tables, other paintings by the no less famous authors. (Laughs) I was asked: "How do you comment?" My answer: "Very simply. Words in the English classics - "The nobles from commoners do not shoot. Engage in a discussion with journalists meaningless because it is in no way contributes to the truth ... "

Numerous hints contained in the interview, clearly indicate: the object of attention of Mr. Tabachnik began late Yablonskaya Tatiana and her daughter Gayane Atayan. After almost four years have passed after the scandal, two former deputy prime Humanities suddenly for the first time spoken publicly on the matter.

Unbecoming for a man anonymously, secretly so rudely insulted two women, one of which is no longer alive, the more so if this man - a statesman, but, moreover, "gentleman"? But leave aside the ethical question - this is an attack on the other side of ethics and morality as such - and comment on some of the information contained master tobacconist.

Information about the work, "purchased from the artist" at the moment looks like, to put it mildly, unconvincing. Where were the brave and happy owners of forgery during the trial, why did not provide pictures for an independent investigation? And here is a quotation from the text of a judicial decision: "Express Yourself TN Яблонської nalezhat chotirom різним vlasnikam, boule придбані them різний h i tend to resemble із різних dzherela". So who's lying?

With regard to the rights that are "unduly arrogate to themselves the" children of artists are former government official, and now lawmakers Tabachnik has demonstrated a basic lack of knowledge or unwillingness to know the laws. According to the Law of Ukraine "About avtorske right i суміжні right" before publicly exhibit or reproduce the work, its owner must obtain permission from the author, irrespective of whose property is to this work. After the death of the author, this right remains for his successors for 70 years. In organizing the exhibition "From Private Collections" is this right was flagrantly violated by the entire administrative vertical headed by Mr. Tabachnyk, because of which the beans were themselves art collectors - the owners of fakes.

The extreme degree of cynicism and ignorance Dmitry Tabachnik manifested in his passages on the authenticity of certain "paintings", or "meter pastels. The man who calls pastels "paintings", clearly has no idea about the subject of conversation, because pastel works on paper, and "meter" late pastels Yablonska did not call. This work was successfully exhibited in Kiev for two personal exhibitions: with the life of the artist, in the spring of 2004 in Kiev museum of Russian art and the first posthumous exhibition in spring 2006 at the National Art Museum of Ukraine. There are directories of both exhibitions, introductory texts Khvedaruk Alexander, member of the Academy of Arts of Ukraine and the late Sergey Mamaev, Ph.D., at the time worked at the State Museum of Ukrainian Art (now the National Art Museum of Ukraine).

And why would it suddenly Mr Tabachnik so troubled by the problem of the authenticity of certain "meter pastels? Why is the issue arose only after the scandal with counterfeit paintings from private collections? What do you mean a cup that someone "not in a position to hold in their hands? Where such exclusive information on cookware and that for indecently morbid interest in details of someone else's life? And how do you explain the generosity with which Mr. Tabachnik distributes diagnoses - who neurasthenia, who a few (!) Stroke?

Throughout a long and nefarious history of counterfeiting, exhibited in the museum, there is one very embarrassing for the organizers of the exhibition scandalous circumstance: Tetyana Yablonskaya was at the time of the scandal is not just alive, she still work productively. And the artist, able to work, of course, be able to distinguish their work from a stranger. Even if, in violation of the law, he was not indicted display picture, he is quite able to recognize fraud by studying reproductions of quality issued by the directory. The existence of late pastels Tatiana Yablonska confirms its viability, and this is extremely disadvantageous masters Vakulenko and tobacconist. So they keep trying to humiliate and insult the now deceased T. Yablonsky, her daughter Gayane, and discredit the whole period of creativity of the famous artist, which lasted five years of her life, using for these purposes the most filthy and despicable means.

T. Yablonska protest against falsification of art painfully hurt, the Ukrainian criminal business of art forgeries. Belated revelation Dmitry Tabachnik - another proof of this.

Irina Popova, especially for the "UK"



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Tana, Natasha ... Tabloids and Orange Ukraine "yellow, gossip, speculation, etc., but interesting to read.
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Tetyana Yablonskaya was at the time of the scandal is not just alive, she has fruitfully worked
It is very seriously ill ...
One of the best Ukrainian artists and such a bad story, sorry.
Why are such problems with the attribution of paintings is not clear who to believe in the Ukraine?
Director of the Kiev Museum of Russian Art Yuri Vakulenko, like a solid art, one of the leading experts of Ukraine, the museum curator, is a great base for a comparative study of paintings TN Yablonska, technological laboratory in his hand, there are archives, have two daughters Tetyana in is the problem? Neponyatno.Hotya Court has on his side, but questions of attribution remain ..
Similar problems with the museum's attribution and Russia .. all the same.



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2. In the summer, 1954.
Lord knowledgeable and savvy,
Can anybody me explain this phenomenon, but I was confused.

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All of these words came to us from Sotheby's and the like. and there they are taught specifically how obloposhit our brother that still yesterday went to six, and now flies his own plane to London
Why so dramatizirovat.pravila today asks the same time as London, New York. In Western countries to "Six" will not go much pokoleniy.Eto we do not know where in the house painting and what is its history, or provenance as they work carefully passed from generation to generation.
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what all these "Provenance", "estimate" and other "directories rezonne" when there are perfectly adequate, the terms "proishozhenie", "estimate" and "union catalog"?
Perhaps we have just recently there was a time when the art business in the USSR was the clandestine work, about the auction, we can only mechtat.Vse those words came out of the country in which it long ago razvito.Obyknovenye workers word.



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about the auctions, we could only dream
You are wrong.
Another Ilf and Petrov described the known auction, which sold the chairs.



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Here here and still there was a character who had an extensive card file with Provenance "



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SAH, I will answer you the words of the joke: "it means they [the auction] were nevertheless!"



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