A. Schilder original or not and the cost - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Messer · 02-04-2010, 15:33

1. Author - Andrew Schilder
2. Material and equipment manufacturing - oil on canvas
3. The amount of vertical - 30,0 cm x horizontal - 40,0 cm).
4. Time of creation - 1898
5. Painting is a family of at least 60 years.
6. The original frame was broken, his father as a child)))

Interested in natural value of this work.
Thanks!

Art-ort · 02-04-2010, 15:39

photo of all the features of this

luka77 · 02-04-2010, 16:09

beautiful landscape, the preservation of good for this age

lazycat · 02-04-2010, 16:08

Messer,

Good Schilder, it is currently. Only not quite, I understood: only the edge of the duplicated or canvas entirely?

sergejnowo · 02-04-2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by lazycat

Not quite, I understood: only the edge of the duplicated or canvas entirely?

I also do not understand.
In the third photo, with the full increase is clearly seen that layer of paint "as new". Thus under Chipped paint discern little white and tselehenky canvas. Craquelure or any wear and tear does not smell. The question, why duplicate?
Oh sorry, but I have to any work in the first place went up like a remake, and only then by staging persuade himself that this is not so.
So, here I am myself in old age can not work to convince. Maybe the owner will help.
In my eyes, was taken the old job the end of 19 century, the layer of paint stripped and the old, refined canvas imposed latest work in style ....
With pleasure I will take back my words, if it is not.

lazycat · 02-04-2010, 17:02

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Originally Posted by sergejnowo

did not also not clear.
In the third photo, with the full increase is clearly seen that layer of paint "as new". Thus under Chipped paint discern little white and tselehenky canvas. Craquelure or any wear and tear does not smell. The question, why duplicate?
Oh sorry, but I have to any work in the first place went up like a remake, and only then by staging persuade himself that this is not so.
So, here I am myself in old age can not work to convince. Maybe the owner will help.
In my eyes, was taken the old job the end of 19 century, the layer of paint stripped and the old, refined canvas imposed latest work in style ....
With pleasure I will take back my words, if it is not so.

Yes normal Schilder. The most wrong, that only can be - to assess the authenticity of the photos.

sergejnowo · 02-04-2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by lazycat

Yes normal Schilder.

yes no question.
Do not insist, but doubt it.
Develop Please my doubts.

lazycat · 02-04-2010, 21:57

sergejnowo

Why should I persuade you? I am in this work all like, but how you - me, in principle, anyway.

Messer · 02-04-2010, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergejnowo

did not also not clear.
In the third photo, with the full increase is clearly seen that layer of paint "as new". Thus under Chipped paint discern little white and tselehenky canvas. Craquelure or any wear and tear does not smell. The question, why duplicate?
Oh sorry, but I have to any work in the first place went up like a remake, and only then by staging persuade himself that this is not so.
So, here I am myself in old age can not work to convince. Maybe the owner will help.
In my eyes, was taken the old job the end of 19 century, the layer of paint stripped and the old, refined canvas imposed latest work in style ....
With pleasure I will take back my words, if it is not so.

Well, believe me you is not easy, but the picture in the family actually more than 60 years. I showed one type of special regime, he said something about the edge, but it was six months ago and I unfortunately do not remember the term. What sort of recovery or something like that. But he was fairly certain that the original.

sergejnowo · 02-04-2010, 22:02

Messer, lazycat or Messer=lazycat,
master sir, then did the original

02-04-2010, 15:33	Original language: Russian #1
Messer Guest Posts: n/a	A. Schilder original or not and the cost 1. Author - Andrew Schilder 2. Material and equipment manufacturing - oil on canvas 3. The amount of vertical - 30,0 cm x horizontal - 40,0 cm). 4. Time of creation - 1898 5. Painting is a family of at least 60 years. 6. The original frame was broken, his father as a child))) Interested in natural value of this work. Thanks! Attached Thumbnails

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