Auction house Bonhams, the outcome of bidding Russian painting - Страница 4 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Кирилл Сызранский · 02.12.2008, 13:25

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totally fake Faberge collection,

You mean the eggs? Those that Vekselberg bought?

eva777 · 02.12.2008, 13:47

I am about this latest sale, which was November 24.

Meister · 02.12.2008, 14:31

eva777, and why are they fake?

Sandro · 02.12.2008, 15:08

agree with eva777,
This can be seen with the naked eye of anyone who had this Faber in his hands, even the photographs in the catalog. There are a couple of things and 90%did not even dragged by the ears, but for other places where stigma, to this dear heart "serezdnogo" collector's name. I would not take the hands of the majority of "masterpieces"

eva777 · 02.12.2008, 17:11

"why are they fake?"

1) Enamel - Color pluck eye, Faberge had never used in his works!
2) Elaboration of decorative elements (girlyandy. banitiki, flowers)
3) A general view of things is not harmonious. annoying. abundance of unnecessary alyapistyh "decorations.
4) The shape of objects.
5) The absurdity of things on purpose. form and decoration.
And about Provenance. better to keep silent.

Евгений · 02.12.2008, 17:14

Auction house Bonhams (sale Faberge)
Lot 205 (Frames) is a good collector (prices, real)
Lot 201 (set of jade, expensive)
Lot207 (set of spoons, forks, expensive)
Lot208-hours, there perhaps?
Lot 212 set of 4 object (the real selling price)
Lot 214 of the circle (the actual sale price, a good subject).
Lot 225 Plate, copper (expensive)
Lot 225 decanter (27 cm) price of 19-23 tons (expensive), actually 10-15.
Lot 226 inkwell (expensive)
Lot 230 decanters (2pcs) Price 46-70 t.ue. expensive.
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Virtually no bullshit, but the ordinary things, serial (mass production). at such prices, such Faberge not needed. (except the frame, Lot 205, decanters Lot 230).
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Sandro · 02.12.2008, 17:32

Dear Eugene, it is solely an auction Sotheby's "Imperial and Royal Presents". And in other auctions - all as always, and to get on Bonamse was a lot of these good things Faber, and left it cheap ...

Евгений · 02.12.2008, 17:35

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Bonamse

I thought you are discussing this auction, so surprised ..

Sandro · 02.12.2008, 17:44

Well, yes, one could wonder our outrage at the good things. At Bonamse I most liked the lot. 230, I think that went for a penny (to our good friend), things are unique, especially when you consider that Faberge personally ordered and chose the crystal for such important and individual things! Congratulations to the buyer!

Евгений · 02.12.2008, 17:55

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lot. 230,

Decanters not sold .. but cool, you're right.
(Perhaps after the auction, left)

02.12.2008, 13:47	Язык оригинала: Русский #32
eva777 Авторитет Регистрация: 26.11.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 806 Спасибо: 1,778 Поблагодарили 885 раз(а) в 243 сообщениях Репутация: 1165	Imperial and Royal Presents I am about this latest sale, which was November 24.

02.12.2008, 14:31	Язык оригинала: Русский #33
Meister Гуру Регистрация: 11.04.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 2,576 Спасибо: 1,512 Поблагодарили 2,996 раз(а) в 1,037 сообщениях Репутация: 1814	eva777, and why are they fake? __________________ До меня мир рисовали таким, как его видят. Я рисую так, как его мыслю. (с) Пикассо.

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02.12.2008, 15:08	Язык оригинала: Русский #34
Sandro Гуру Регистрация: 31.10.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 1,342 Спасибо: 2,989 Поблагодарили 2,221 раз(а) в 455 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 1 Репутация: 2874	agree with eva777, This can be seen with the naked eye of anyone who had this Faber in his hands, even the photographs in the catalog. There are a couple of things and 90%did not even dragged by the ears, but for other places where stigma, to this dear heart "serezdnogo" collector's name. I would not take the hands of the majority of "masterpieces"

02.12.2008, 17:11	Язык оригинала: Русский #35
eva777 Авторитет Регистрация: 26.11.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 806 Спасибо: 1,778 Поблагодарили 885 раз(а) в 243 сообщениях Репутация: 1165	"why are they fake?" 1) Enamel - Color pluck eye, Faberge had never used in his works! 2) Elaboration of decorative elements (girlyandy. banitiki, flowers) 3) A general view of things is not harmonious. annoying. abundance of unnecessary alyapistyh "decorations. 4) The shape of objects. 5) The absurdity of things on purpose. form and decoration. And about Provenance. better to keep silent.

02.12.2008, 17:14	Язык оригинала: Русский #36
Евгений Гуру Регистрация: 04.06.2008 Сообщений: 14,663 Спасибо: 18,865 Поблагодарили 16,456 раз(а) в 4,506 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 271 Репутация: 32443	Auction house Bonhams (sale Faberge) Lot 205 (Frames) is a good collector (prices, real) Lot 201 (set of jade, expensive) Lot207 (set of spoons, forks, expensive) Lot208-hours, there perhaps? Lot 212 set of 4 object (the real selling price) Lot 214 of the circle (the actual sale price, a good subject). Lot 225 Plate, copper (expensive) Lot 225 decanter (27 cm) price of 19-23 tons (expensive), actually 10-15. Lot 226 inkwell (expensive) Lot 230 decanters (2pcs) Price 46-70 t.ue. expensive. ---------------------------------------------- Virtually no bullshit, but the ordinary things, serial (mass production). at such prices, such Faberge not needed. (except the frame, Lot 205, decanters Lot 230). ------------------------------------------------

02.12.2008, 17:32	Язык оригинала: Русский #37
Sandro Гуру Регистрация: 31.10.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 1,342 Спасибо: 2,989 Поблагодарили 2,221 раз(а) в 455 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 1 Репутация: 2874	Dear Eugene, it is solely an auction Sotheby's "Imperial and Royal Presents". And in other auctions - all as always, and to get on Bonamse was a lot of these good things Faber, and left it cheap ...

02.12.2008, 17:44	Язык оригинала: Русский #39
Sandro Гуру Регистрация: 31.10.2008 Адрес: Москва Сообщений: 1,342 Спасибо: 2,989 Поблагодарили 2,221 раз(а) в 455 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 1 Репутация: 2874	Well, yes, one could wonder our outrage at the good things. At Bonamse I most liked the lot. 230, I think that went for a penny (to our good friend), things are unique, especially when you consider that Faberge personally ordered and chose the crystal for such important and individual things! Congratulations to the buyer!