Alexei Petrovich Bogolyubov

[Meister]

but he did this on sale there? I think very rare.

[ранжер]

Bravo, Tjutchev,! You have worked nicely. Just right to issue concerned (owners of the site?) Account. But we're not here for personal gain, and the Holy art for. Not so, maestro?

But agree with you only one item. This - not Bogolyubov.

  However, if you are ready to transform his impression of a certain proposition that this landscape - carved out another piece of the picture, then and there we have with you is a consensus. But in this case, your entire argument about the composition is no longer itself.

For your considerations in favor of this version is that there was also no logical necessity from the left side in the background to depict what a small part of Toli Toli ship port facility. In addition, I shall pay attention that the dimensions of this work does not conform to the standard format of the French, that when writing this etude, it would be quite natural and comfortable.

I do not see in this marina is no color disharmony. It worked competently, confidently and soundly, not art, of course, but very professional. Stylistically very similar to the hierarchy of the French period. Precisely to say so - that his paintings of that period stylistically trudnootlichimy of equal talent with French colleagues.
There is still time, but if need be to lay out the test anonymous pictures of several artists. Let the experts and specialists will determine which of them Bogolyubov.

Without belittling the great achievements AP Bogolyubov to Russian culture, yet it must be admitted that all the superlatives in the determination of his creative contribution, given in your text, just loosely with one important reservation - only for Russian art.
In the context of European art of the 19 th century he was an artist medium capacity.
Art world can do without his work, without losing its integrity. Here, for example, without his disciples Polenova and Pohitonova can not.
He has not, so to speak, his coloristic person. Especially in the so-called Vel'skii period, while at the named students or have Kharlamov, who also worked at the Wehle, that person was, the color in their paintings immediately recognizable.
No accident that the curators of a major exhibition of Russian Art 19 th century in the Paris Museum d'Orsay are not included in this exhibit no product hierarchy. The museum represents the French art of the second half of the 19 th century, with its outstanding landscape painters, paintings and hierarchy would look at all homely.

With regard to the signature on the marina under consideration, then, in my opinion, it is made of solid professional hand, well reproducing the incertitude and the uncertainty of the hand hierarchy. Among the numerous signatures of the artist in the databases of specialists and there is.

When this picture was seen on the forum for the first time, I expressed doubt that the AP Bogolyubov, who has lived in France for many years, could be so grossly wrong to show the place - HAVRE. If local residents to ask how to get to Havre, you simply do not understand. In French, the name of this city inseparable from the article Le. Correctly only LE HAVRE. Someone replied that he had seen similar inscriptions on his paintings in museums. If so, then the general hierarchy in France had problems not only with artistic self-identity, but also with the French.

What remains for us, my friend Tjutchev? As a not-hudozhnecheski inflicted by the signature and name of the place, but the assumption that if a piece of another picture of hierarchy, it is unlikely that this would be a marina, he was putting on a special frame and sign it.
  (According to the French mind stretcher and canvas and nails more than 100 years, ie, as they say, all native. I think, an expert on this fact had its effect).

Admittedly, not many.
However, there is intuition. In such a delicate case like ours, gentlemen, we must not ignore our intuition.

Yes, a colleague, is obliged to warn. Negative atributiruya online this picture, we are with you take out of public distrust of the well-known specialist Bogolyubov - VA Petrov.
Say leniently - put him in appearance.

Well, you, master, look man, not timid, not pasuyuschim to authorities. You yourself own authority!

In this regard, I have an idea to speak with the appeal to Vladimir Aleksandrovich, now that the dispute about the authorship of the three marina we are with you in the majority.

Still wait for your consent. Suddenly you change your mind.

[Евгений]

RUSSIAN PAINTING XVIII - early XX century. Full academic catalog Saratov Chersonesus Museum im. Radishshev

The catalog, training which lasted for many years, includes all 1,051 works of Russian artists, stored in the museum collection.

Format: 22х28 cm, 560 pages, illustrated., Hardcover, M., 2004
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Very useful book for art dealers, collectors.
In the catalog of more than 200 works of Bogolyubov AP
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Сообщение от Tjutchev

For the hierarchy of the sketch is too weak. Do not forget that during the lifetime of Bogolyubov was recognized not only in their homeland (which in itself is not enough), but also among the masters of French painting at that time. But that's another story.

In the catalog of studies introduced are weaker studies ...

[SAH]

With Bogoliubov such as "figured out" is not whether we go to his two disciples who wrote ranzher?

Сообщение от ranzher

Without great achievements AP Bogolyubov to Russian culture, yet it must be admitted that all the superlatives in the determination of his creative contribution, given in your text, just loosely with one important reservation -- only for Russian art.
In the context of European art of the 19 th century he was an artist medium capacity.
Art world can do without his work, without losing its integrity. Here, for example, without and his disciples Polenova Pohitonova can not.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от ranzher

Would not it be so kind as to comment on this picture?
It has already been discussed at the forum, but would like to know the opinion of an experienced person.

Could not find a discussion of this picture. A theme is interested in discussing it.
Someone give a link?