Russian or western?

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Сообщение от bend

I'm just a few hours much understood.

Join your assessment But your "shooting in Macedonian" had its value.
You are beautifully made theme - not hard-nosed, with humor and intrigue.
It was nice to see you in contact.

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http://browse.sothebys.com/?&cat=1&e...sale_id=L09631
by the way.

Perhaps, or at Sotheby's only Lochy work, antiques or just cheaper, or the Russian market is very overheated. One of the three.
: eek:

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Сообщение от LCR

That's something like this - this can be a long talk, but I'm a talker. Stop your fountain: p

Do not stop. : o
Your information is valuable because it is more like the truth than even the Bloomberg News.


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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

bend, look.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
And compare with the "Previous sales and prices.
http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/158...=П&page=7

AI: Can you say that in 2009 prices TEFAF adjusted downward?
M. M.: According to our observations, the prices rose, but not fallen. According to the old masters prices have not changed (we have something to ask), the Russian diaspora, too, in general, nothing has changed. Generally, the old masters feel fine. Perhaps the greatest number of sales was just there (namely the number of sales is an indicator of health).
...
AI: What is your forecast for the coming April's "Russian auction"? How do you rate the quality of the proposals of the leading auction houses and claimed estimate?
MM: I think it will sell well, but not better than last time. ... But my overall outlook is this: will now buy the best things for quite a lot of money, but for less than before.

Russian "nezarubezhe" I understand, even in rubles took off about 50%?

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And there is a suspicion that the same Maastrihe soedney on the street can be purchased at the usual gallery almost the same as that of Sotheby's, only two or three times cheaper? May, of course, the condition worse or something ... But in terms of authenticity doubts unlikely at low prices then.

By and large, if the next 20 years is not going to sell - then at the auction or the auction - in general, any difference does not matter. If only it most?

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"In God We Trust" - this is extremely non-Russian format of mutual obligations, the expression of whom are money. In this sentence there is a good continuation: Other pay cash And about the green would not deceive , that's really where the printing press works
So, what would your children do not call you bad words, buy a equally good graphics for rubles, euros and dollars. Russian, Russian-French and European artists, maybe not go wrong: D: D: D

And so the discussion zhivinkaya turned out, the goal is reached, no one in the Easter night anyone not particularly attached. All Respect and уважуха!

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Thank you. We tried. But you missed one condition: You will now be bought only one painting.
: shy:

[LCR]

Сообщение от bend

And in general, by the way, is it true that the French are more expensive in France, the Americans - in America, the Dutch - in the Netherlands, the Russian - in Russia, etc.?

This was true before, now the Art Market to internationalize, and the situation has changed somewhat. Do not forget about the big auction houses that determine the price for the whole world.

Your assertion remains true especially for some parts of American Art (American realism - Hopper, Wyeth) - is not even in the fact that these artists are in the United States more expensive, they are almost impossible to find in Europe - and for minor local artists, such as a some little-known French landscape late 18 th century. France will sell a little more expensive. It is here possible pleasant surprises: Klimt and Schiele were especially before the end of 1970. artists exclusively for the domestic Austrian market - and suddenly, boom! Klimt is one of the most expensive artists of the world, Schiele, too. German expressionism is not up to such a long time, too, was seriously underestimated. Actually, I think that artists such as Emil Nolde still have a serious investment potential - but they will not buy any for 1000, nor for 10000 euro.

That's something like this - this can be a long talk, and I'm a man razgovorchivyy.Zatykayu a fountain: p

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Сообщение от LCR

Do not forget about the big auction houses that determine the price for the entire world.

That, incidentally, that it occurred on the day of "Russian auction" something.

Commission auction up to 30%. This "white". Imagine how tempting - would drive the price "on air"?

But in principle - it is very simple. Nobody did not hide the fact that the auction come largely pre-prepared buyers. Including - and "someone" trained. Especially when it comes to $ 100 million is several billion rubles. among other things.

If there is a challenge to raise prices on some product category (eg, artists Zanzibar) - enough for most to buy yourself a million two or three more or less literate work, but so that the price "whiten" through the auction. With a starting price of the 5 th is shocking. And - the shaft is inevitable.

I do not know, like art dealers, and securities market - this is normal. At least, it does not require the purchase of advertising time world channels for the same $ 100 million

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Сообщение от bend

Commission auction up to 30%. This "white". Imagine how tempting - would drive the price "on air"?

But in principle - it is very simple. Nobody did not hide the fact that the auction come largely pre-prepared buyers. Including - and "someone" trained. Especially when it comes to $ 100 million is several billion rubles. among other things.

If there is a challenge to raise prices on some product category (eg, artists Zanzibar) - enough for most to buy yourself a million two or three more or less literate work, but so that the price "whiten" through the auction. With a starting price of the 5 th is shocking. And - the shaft is inevitable.

I do not know, like art dealers, and securities market - this is normal. At least, it does not require the purchase of advertising time world channels for the same $ 100 million

On the stock market make it much easier because
  a) the absolute uniformity of product,
b) it disproportionately liquidity,
c) sufficient funding from the surface of market agents and
d) commission insignificance compared with practiced in the art market.

Actually, this is the function of market-makers - to raise or lower the rate, to build corridors, in general, deftly directed handicraftsman alone - a Stock Operator, to the bitter end

Is done and at auctions, but such naive attempts to enrich not often give positive results.

In my opinion, much easier - and cheaper - to do this on direct sales.

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Сообщение от bend

to let the artist was unknown, but they really existed.

should I buy a little-known-especially for 1000 EUR?

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Сообщение от bend

buy in the normal Moscow gallery Russian artist or gallery eropeyskoy European?

In the European-Russian artist gallery ..

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Сообщение от Eugene

In the European-Russian artist gallery ..

not always cheaper than buying here ... especially with a budget of 1000 euro seems to me to look for it we