Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[artcol]

Сообщение от Samvel

A week ago, they sold the work for 1 $ and $ 1,000,000 for today, not serious all of this. I gradually seems that this forum, only an arbor, and a serious act of disrespect that it can not. if u watch this forum and gentlemen of Sovkoma, then with a grin as a forum for discussing this nonsense seriously. Give me the baykotirovat this auction house. Maybe even both of them to act.

Why it baykotirovat? Joseph there in 2000 rubles. Etudes good purchased. Again, in Eugene that will be invoked? : D sale there any garbage - but nobody does not cause the same force there to buy?

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Сообщение от Samvel

No Cala, is not normal. normally when for $ 100 and $ 10000 more serious .- Here is normal.

Do not be such because it is absurd.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от artcol

And why it baykotirovat?

Agree.
Wish auction house "Sovkom: on top of the line painting was done more detailed information, provenance paintings, online auction house to read expert opinions (to do so is not technically difficult).

I wish the auction house "Sovkom" successfully bid to hold on October 25.

[Konstantin]

Replied Sovkom.

Provenance: we received from the private collection Sysoeva VP, in
       which came after the dissolution mastreskoy Deineki.

If you have questions - ask, will be meeting today with Tyukhtin - before.

[LCR]

Some rather unconvincing examination.
I think that the picture was written not earlier than 2 nd polviny the 19 th century, many of the forum participants guessed, and not by studying the soil.

Of course, it is interesting to learn that she could not be written until 1935 or even 1936, but the most interesting question: could it be written, for example, last year, for some reason is not affected.

The stylistic analysis is also not convincing: in fact, an expert claims authorship Deineki on the basis of numerous borrowings from earlier works, which is precisely cast doubts on the authenticity of work.
It is not clear, why Alexander would be ripped off his previous works to create a sort of pictorial quilt, as if he feared that if he would draw something "away", then he will fail?

Here Deineka, whom I love

[Кирилл Сызранский]

It would be interesting to look in a book about Sysoeva Deineko is, there is a reproduction of this painting, which itself VP Sysoev, and gave the conclusion that came up for auction from him.

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

It would be interesting to look in a book about Sysoeva Deineko is, there is a reproduction of this painting, which itself VP Sysoev, and gave the conclusion that came up for auction from him.

We Sysoeva have a dozen books about Deineko. He published them regularly, since 1959, last two volumes came out in 1989 (later editions I have not seen). Last night for fun all flipped: No there, of course, no mention of this masterpiece. As you know, if this thing was mentioned in any book or be on any show, this auction must be reported.

This does not change, but admitted inaccuracy: a monograph in 1959 did not write Sysoev, and IL Matza. Sorry.

[LCR]

Сообщение от qwerty

in 1959 wrote a monograph not Sysoev, and IL Matza.

Ah-ah-ah, good Istvan Ludwigovich who initiates us into the intricacies of Marxist-Leninist aesthetics (or the aesthetic of Marxism-Leninism, do not remember) and, coming again from some house work (surely there he wrote another book) , admiring nature, like a true russoist: "Viydesh morning on the veranda, the birds jump from twigs on a branch, with twigs on a branch ..."

[Евгений]

LCR,
Sysoev, Vladimir P. - professor, Doctor of Arts, Honored Artist of Russia, full member of the Russia Academy of Arts, member of Peter's Academy of Sciences and Arts, secretary of the Union of Artists of Russia, chairman of the commission on art criticism and art criticism of the Union of Artists of Russia, an expert on the history of Russian art XIX - XX centuries. Specializes in the study of Russian painting of XIX - XX centuries., Studying the works of Russian artists Perova half of XX century. Taught a course on the history of Russian art XIX - XX centuries. Author of more than 70 publications including 10 monographs.

Major works:
Sysoev, VP A.Deyneka.Zhizn, art, time. Literary and artistic heritage. M., 1974.
Sysoev, VP A. Dejneka. In 2 vols. M., 1989.
Sysoev, VP Alexei Gritsay. Album. M., 2001.
Sysoev, VP Arkady seams. Album. M., 2002.
Sysoev, VP Viktor Ivanov. Album. M., 2002.
Sysoev, VP GM Korzhev. Album. M., 2002.
Series album "The Art of Young Artists" (1980, 1982.1986, 1987.1988)
http://www.rsuh.ru/section.html?id=3533
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Liana with this work ( "Traveling Girls") is not so simple and clear.
Just so ignore the opinion of the distinguished professors, too, not worth it.
I have something that is not veritsya that in his collection "a dubious picture" just lying for 50 years.
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Problem one: expert opinion, which is on this now, "raw", we must now examine in more detail starting with 1941.Interesno here to listen to the professor himself (but it's probably not realistic).

Сообщение от sss

With all due respect, "kitchen talk" - it certainly is not serious, but here are discussing is not just random people. Everyone has some experience, knowledge, practice

I agree completely, but Sysoev, VP is also not "a boy from the street ..

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Eugene

Sysoev, VP Gregory Korzhev

Zhenya Korzheva name helium Mihailovich. I do not remember why, but some shows he was under the name Korzhev-Chuvelev.

[Konstantin]

Konstantin let's all do without emotion, and not so superficial now discuss AA Deineki.
There is a comparative base for the paintings AA Deineki (in the Tretyakov Gallery), there are archives AA Deineki is B. Maslovka perhaps there is where the information on this work.
I would not like that would have respected experts Tretyakov again mistaken, already here on the site.
ARTinvestment.RU-our friend, but truth is dearer.

Eugene
Everything is thinner, the red indicator is in fact not the expertise of authenticity or genuineness. This is a signal of the riskiness of investments. Case Experts signal, let alone everyone else to pay attention to it or not. By the way expert made (a) such a conclusion, especially writing obscurely, not by reading our discussion. And the indicators appeared yesterday and in other works, but not this one picture.