Старый 04.12.2009, 23:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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For sure the frame is an old baguette that cut, as now collected in a frame
I think the original native frame size (such joints - a frequent phenomenon in normal shops), but confusing, as the work was glued from the perimeter, then opened, ... seems to have nestykovochki, look closely at the photo number 4, or am I mistaken?
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Старый 04.12.2009, 23:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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I think the original native frame size (such joints - a frequent phenomenon in normal shops), but confusing, as the work was glued from the perimeter, then opened, ... seems to have nestykovochki, look closely at the photo number 4, or am I mistaken?
The edge of the seams I personally was not so long ago and before the show had to open, looked in the microscope and it is under glass of course.



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Старый 05.12.2009, 00:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Scenes alleged murals Vrubel developed in several different ways. «Tombstone crying» (Our Lady of the body of Christ) has four options, different in composition . The first - against the backdrop of the distant landscape: the sky with floating clouds, the disk of the setting sun, silhouettes of poplars. Perhaps the landscape is suggested overlooking the Dnieper, the opening up of Andrew's Cathedral, where the artist lived. The latter landscape background corrected, two figures inscribed in a semicircle, as if in a secluded niche. The third option they have on the background of a large cross. The artist intended to write this composition between the two windows, and the silhouette of the cross at the same time naturally arise. In the fourth, the most complete sketch put more figures of the Apostles on the sides. All four executed watercolor sketch.
Gravestone lament - a frequent subject of paintings in the church since the Middle Ages. It was interpreted in different ways, but primarily as multifigured group (The Virgin and the disciples), with a rough display of grief, weeping, wringing of hands, with gestures of despair. Vrubel prefer them to silence. In all the sketches "Western" than the fourth, has two figures - Mother and son dead. All the pain was concentrated in the mother's eyes full of unshed tears.The mother stared at her son looks like and gives him a dumb question about the mystery of death. Not a word or gesture - nothing, only indistinguishable in Proshan gaze. Seems this is expressed most strongly in the second sketch, where the drama corner lublyaetsya due to the absence of any ACCESS Suar, and both faces are in profile. Beautiful and the third sketch, but it is monochrome, the second is for the vertices in color. Blue gamut - from black-blue, like a thundercloud, a greenish-blue, greenish-blue, are resolved in a white, crossed by transparent blue shadows. Example but the same color scheme in the figure of an angel with a candle and censer. Probably Vrubel conceive the whole painting the church in this vein, color - deep blue to black, turquoise flash and white with shades of air and glazes.
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About a Tombstone crying you talking about? From a meeting? In KMRI 4 variants of Wailing, and Abramtsevo one.
What I saw-from GTG-ABSOLUTELY does not seem close to nothing at all.
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Scenes alleged murals Vrubel developed in several different ways. «Tombstone crying» (Our Lady of the body of Christ) has four options, different composition. The first - against the backdrop of the distant landscape: the sky with floating clouds, the disk of the setting sun, silhouettes of poplars. Perhaps the landscape is suggested overlooking the Dnieper, the opening up of Andrew's Cathedral, where the artist lived. The latter landscape background corrected, two figures inscribed in a semicircle, as if in a secluded niche. The third option they have on the background of a large cross. The artist intended to write this composition between the two windows, and the silhouette of the cross at the same time naturally arise. In the fourth, the most complete sketch put more figures of the Apostles on the sides. All four executed watercolor sketch.
Gravestone lament - a frequent subject of paintings in the church since the Middle Ages. It was interpreted in different ways, but primarily as multifigured group (The Virgin and the disciples), with a rough display of grief, weeping, wringing of hands, with gestures of despair. Vrubel prefer them to silence. In all the sketches "Western" than the fourth, has two figures - the Mother of the Son and the dead. All the pain was concentrated in the mother's eyes full of unshed tears. The mother stared at her son and looks like a dumb question asks him about the mystery of death. Not a word or gesture - nothing, only linked with questioning eyes. I think this is expressed most strongly in the second sketch, where the drama deepens because of the absence of any accessories, and both faces are in profile. Beautiful and the third sketch, but it is monochrome, the second is for the vertices in color. Blue gamut - from black-blue, like a thundercloud, a greenish-blue, greenish-blue, are resolved in a white, crossed by transparent blue shadows. Example but the same color scheme in the figure of an angel with a candle and censer. Probably Vrubel conceive the whole painting the church in this vein, color - deep blue to black, turquoise flash and air with the shades of blue white.
I firstly did not assert, as he wrote about the subject on which he worked Vrubel and details that match the details of the proposed work and not a photographic resemblance, thumbnail could be many and they do not have all kept in the museum and be like, even Conversely, when a fake copy.



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Старый 05.12.2009, 00:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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I heard about this show, and I know the opinion of many works that were causing confusion specialists Ukrainy.Na opinion of one expert, who was the organizer of the exhibition, you know Jacob, who I mean impossible to judge the authenticity of Wrubel, although I did not oprovergayu.Nuzhna only a comprehensive examination of SRM and Grabar.
Several years ago I was invited to Kiev for the exhibition of works I.K.Ayvazovskogo.Ochen questionable work was rather part of them.
All these pictures were in the catalog vystavki.U they believed that if the work was on show and appeared in the catalog, it is perfect, but for me it has no significance.



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Старый 05.12.2009, 00:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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I heard about this show, and I know the opinion of many works that caused bewilderment specialists Ukrainy.Na opinion of one expert, who was the organizer of the exhibition, you know Jacob, who I mean impossible to judge authenticity of Vrubel, although I did not oprovergayu.Nuzhna only a comprehensive examination of SRM and Grabar.
Several years ago I was invited to Kiev for the exhibition of works I.K.Ayvazovskogo.Ochen questionable work was rather part of them.
All these pictures were in the catalog vystavki.U they believed that if the work was on show and appeared in the catalog, it is perfect, but for me it has no significance.
I can guess about what the exhibition was held in Kiev in 2002, you pishite.Eta same work has never been in Kiev, I was referring to was another show in another gorode.A to RM, etc. You are absolutely right but where we are and where .... ...




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