Exhibition "Thaw and time after. Moscow Artists 1958-2008"

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Gentlemen, if you evaluate an artist in terms of number of publications in the press and value, then one of the Artists of Art - the notorious Damian Hirst.

Excuse me ignorant, but if I see the average poster - that and say that this poster, despite its price tag. Thumbnail number one can easily repeat a designer or illustrator. In this paper, number two - an interesting idea, but no more. This is clearly not the sculptor Rodin and Bernini, and not Konenkov. In this paper, number three, I did not find great color palette. Try to put it on the background of the same Yavlensky, what happens?
And there's nothing I look to the Internet - I doubt I'll find it at these artists work better.

As there was a fairy tale about a naked king? All adults admired, one foolish boy allowed himself to cry crown phrase.

PS
For some it's maybe stupid, but really - this is my personal opinion. And I am sure that the same opinion may be in other people. At the same Russian artists, not all of whom are followers of the computer printing and conceptualism. Or go to the Tretyakov Gallery, talk with visitors "pilot" of the hall, that they can tell you about the poorly dyed door and a box of garbage?

[Маруся]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Lord, if the measure of the artist in terms of number of publications in the press and value, then

Vladimir V !....

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Once in the directory "France the second half of XIX - XX century. Collection of paintings." tom2, 2002,
I stumbled on the page 291 on black and white photo artist's paintings Leon-Maxim Fevr (Faivre) "Russian Parisienne" 1891 .. Cite her image does not make sense.

     Description read:
"... The fact that the portrait was commissioned in the late 1880's the salon painter Fevru, shows a certain position in society and prosperity Russian model. Artist before that won a bronze medal at World Expo 1889 in Paris." At that time it was an expensive artist.
    In the same year in Arles hospital, Van Gogh painted a portrait of the doctor free Ray. Who has not been evaluated by Ray and sold for 150 francs Vollaru, which in ten years it preprodal Cassirer, he Dryue. In 1908, SI Shchukin bought it for 4600 francs. Cite its image, too, makes no sense. But a completely different reason - its all they know.
    Expensive custom painting Fevra never leave reservists GMII, unless it is sent to replenish the collection of the provincial museum.

PS

My example says it is wrong to treat the art as the stock market, focusing solely on price tags. If now promotions are growing rapidly, so soon they will fall sharply. Time will judge. Pena leaves. Buyers of "masterpieces" will record a loss.
However, the same can apply to most market shares. It may be advantageous to place the shares "of companies' second-or third-tier? Monsters of the world computer-Hewlett-Packard once started their work in the garage. Now this garage - a museum. But the neighborhood was founded Silicon Valley.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Once in the directory "France the second half of XIX - XX century. Collection of paintings." tom2, 2002,
I stumbled on the page 291 on black and white photo artist's paintings Leon-Maxim Fevr (Faivre) "Russian Parisienne" 1891 .. Cite her image does not make sense.

    Description read:
"... The fact that the portrait was commissioned in the late 1880's the salon painter Fevru, shows a certain position in society and prosperity Russian model. Artist before that won a bronze medal at World Expo 1889 in Paris." At that time it was an expensive artist.
   In the same year in Arles hospital, Van Gogh painted a portrait of the doctor free Ray. Who has not been evaluated by Ray and sold for 150 francs Vollaru, which in ten years it preprodal Cassirer, he Dryue. In 1908, SI Shchukin bought it for 4600 francs. Cite its image, too, makes no sense. But a completely different reason - its all they know.
   Expensive custom painting Fevra never leave reservists GMII, unless it is sent to replenish the collection of the provincial museum.

PS

My example says it is wrong to treat the art as the stock market, focusing solely on price tags. If now promotions are growing rapidly, so soon they will fall sharply. Time will judge. Pena leaves. Buyers of "masterpieces" will record a loss.
However, the same can apply to most market shares. It may be advantageous to place the shares "of companies' second-or third-tier? Monsters of the world computer-Hewlett-Packard once started their work in the garage. Now this garage - a museum. And the neighborhood was founded Silicon Valley.

Not quite agree with the second part, it vsetaki Exchange, but bad in that there is nothing. Worse when pictures cheap and just throw away. Expensive thing will be stored. The picture is made and sold, when the order is worse. How's Pushkin: Not Available inspiration, but you can sell a manuscript. And over time, this manuscript should be more expensive in any case.
The good news is that good for the development of art.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

In fact, she lives in Jerusalem, the main city on Earth, as many think.

Jerusalem and is located on the edge of Yisrael.

[Seriy]

We looked lilies Monet. After looking at Monet's red toilet impossible. Although I am not a reactionary (I hope). It's just that the artist must train to be at least some sense of color?

[Posav]

And more ... a picture of Van Gogh had plugged a hole in the henhouse. Later she was removed from there and now worth millions.

[Маруся]

Your coalition should be ashamed of its members!

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Sorry layman, but if I see the average poster - that and say that this poster, despite its price tag. Thumbnail number one can easily repeat a designer or illustrator.

I remember, especially in the Guide to the Forum prescribed reference for questions about the significance of Malevich. And there in the discussion remember one brilliant metaphor about the decisive goal on a penalty kick in the World Cup finals. That is to score a goal can be any footballer, but not every football player will reach the final.
Once heard as Volokhov commented on their work. I say that not many of the sixties as they can. For me this is one of the criteria. And in general there is a feeling that Volokhov still very undervalued.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от Vladimir

once heard as Volokhov commented on their work. I say that not many of the sixties as they can. For me this is one of the criteria. And in general there is a feeling that Volokhov still very undervalued.

    I can not understand the connection between the skill of the artist and his abilities commentator?
What is more important - a picture or comments? Often beautiful or not an idea, simple or complicated words hiding emptiness.
    Of course, I FM Dostoevsky and not even Lukyanenko, but those ideas and texts that I see from today's conceptualists - I can not think of genius. I can think of "on time" more and better. But I do not rvus in "artists." Also, I screwed out of garbage and nemusora much that is exposed on the conceptual exhibitions - but I do not rvus in "artists." You will not doubt my abilities to think and write long texts of a given quality? [How long will]

   And how people are given the title and academics, as the picture hit the high-Union and All-Russia Exhibition - I know very well. Half of Merit, half - of patronage and for the post. One of the best artist draws, the second sitting in the presidium and manages the local union. Talent is different, but the formal results of who will be better?
  
    Sure that any collector or gallery owner dreams about the same thing, the dream of every soldier. Soldier dreams of becoming a general (or dembelnutsya: D), a collector wants to open a new Van Gogh and enter with him into history. I'm afraid that if we seek new vangogov by the noise they made noise, or the current high price tags - the result will be negative. As many times history proves.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I can not understand the connection between the skill of the artist and his abilities commentator?
What is more important - a picture or comments? Often beautiful or not an idea, simple or complicated words hiding emptiness.

We had an interesting discussion on this topic: http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...???? ????????? Subject Isskusstvo should be explaining? "