Damien Hirst again in Kiev II

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от SAH

Message from Vladimir
Maybe Hirst - it's not a hymn of decay, and the idea of overcoming fear, division of physical and spiritual?

Maybe so, too, can be positioned. I wonder that all his work in my opinion of course relevant, and it is "scary" relevance. Not the best for the planet relevance, in my opinion.

I think that the rejection of Hirst - a piece which many art lovers will be over time. If interested, talk about their personal experiences. About some of these outstanding kids, I learned in 2004, when preparing an article about the most expensive young hudozhdnikov. http://directorinfo.ru/Article.aspx?...24&iid=612 It lists many of the first names. Hurst was not the first in the list, ahead of his Cattelan - in general, and is now interesting to read. Although five years a lot of water has flowed. On impressions: in art, Jean-Michel Basquiat and Gary Hume fell in love immediately. Chris Ofili at once made the foolish impression, and the girls, Rachel and Jenny Sevil Uaytrid remembered. But with Hurst came out as something "mimoprohodil": the scandal at the customs on the transport of biological materials, some skeletons in closets. In general, the first impression - some banter and rubbish. But only the first. Then, when you begin to follow the evolution of his ideas, so where everything goes (Mexico, blended Catholic feasts of the dead, everyday attitude to death, not peculiar to Europeans) - was interesting. And now confidently say: yes, sometimes it remains vypendezhnikom (as with diamond skull), but generally people doing a titanic intellectual work. At a dedication capable man, free from the need to earn money. Who does not know, Hurst multimillionaire and might well have been lying on the stove (it is a reminder to those who blames the artist in avarice). So watch for his uncommon ideas (and they, unfortunately, is not inexhaustible) are quite fascinating and useful IMHO. Those who want to look into the future.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Vladimir

here with Hurst came out as something "mimoprohodil": scandal at the customs on the transport of biological materials, some skeletons in closets. In general, the first impression - some banter and rubbish. But only the first. Then, when you begin to follow the evolution of his ideas, so, where everything goes (Mexico, mixed Catholic feast of the dead, consumer attitude toward death is not peculiar to Europeans) - was interesting.

Yes, I too, from these pictures left feeling a strange attraction, if a speech here that Mexico is involved, it becomes clearer and, then, he did not ernichaet ... Aggressiveness not. That's close to such a statement in Moscow case (Sah.Tsentr, Erofeev, etc.) seem to be any fuss dubious wing, the whole spirit of the policy and the "crusade" against religion, he was funny ...

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Vladimir

I think that the rejection of Hirst - a piece which many art lovers will be over time.

I am also almost sure of it - will pass! As, apparently, "will" and the art itself, through the efforts of the glorious world of the "Internationale incompetence" ...

It is, alas, and the rejection by the human body of nicotine, alcohol and other drugs (if you make enough perseverance, so as to accustom him to the poison). Man's first tears and correct it ... But the man - not a pig, gets used to anything ...

Over time, the use of such stimulants, intellectual and physical activity becomes a habit and becomes a human life is not just a matter of course, but also necessary (relax) and trendy (everyone drinks).

And eventually ceases to be a beautiful beautiful and beautiful disappears from life, as well as a comfortable state of mind, if you do not apply to ordinary glass, cigarettes, snuff, Shmyga etc ...

Absolutely a similar manner and in art (as a living incarnation) fashionable and necessary now become immoral, stupid, head-on ways to achieve "artistic" effects, and gains audience attention and understanding.

And why, I wonder what terrible accident, the greater is going to onlookers, observe what is going stupid "installation" with the participation of victims, traffic police and ambulance? Here, as times, acts neochelovechennaya part of the psyche. Its something and pick out the surface with enviable persistence Laborers' International ... ".

So come Eviscerate cows, as an object of worship ...

What is happening at once satisfied with two categories of "art-market players. First, the artists - they do not have to strain his mind to find a beautiful life around him (and the last - a ministry of calling and faith, and education, and will, and intelligence).

Secondly, the visitors (potential customers) - they all disappear need to understand the art (and how to serve, and how to craft), to evaluate its merits. And someone enthused Hurst (here is the common name), can be totally calm - we have a lot, so do not be ashamed ... It is like Pinchuk (too - narits.)

Main the same "player" is the "art market" third force - "curators" and market-makers. But they benefit from psycho-pathological propaganda "art" and the promotion of personalities, not succeeded in professional skills and find High. And it would be great if only greed motivated them ...

[Konstantin]

So it appears Eviscerate cows, as an object of worship ...

Dear Nedogonov, then you do not like clear understanding of the situation, please give an example of what you like from the modern.

By the way, very fond of carcasses Soutine and many are then shocked, and now cheers.
I like do not understand why a carcass in formalin pay millions of $, and for the dummies out of the shop hunter - a few thousand rubles. But at the same time if the market is suffering and let him.

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Konstantin

By the way, very fond of carcasses Soutine and many are then shocked, and now cheers.

You can also give examples Feshin ( "Slaughterhouse") and Shemyakin. By the way at the last photo because carcasses peeps Vladimir Vysotsky

[Konstantin]

Despite the well-established view of history does not repeat.

Even as repeats.

«What is this person? You mean you do not know how to draw? My grandson and it is better to draw! ... What is it? What are you - men or homosexuals damned, how can you write well? Do you have a conscience? "[1]

Smart Khrushchev provoked outrage from the work of artists Sooster Yu, B. and B. Yankylevsky Zhutovski. Khrushchev demanded the prohibition of the exhibits:

"Very generally incomprehensible. Look, Belyutin, I tell you, as Chairman of the Council of Ministers: this is not necessary to the Soviet people. You see, I can tell you! ... Deny! All forbid! Stop this outrage! I order! I say! And to follow all! And on the radio and on television and in print all the fans that rooted out! "
Khrushchev. [2]

Every artist who depicts the sky green and the grass blue, must be subjected to sterilization.
Adolf Hitler

-time irreversible action was slightly exclusion of artists from across the profession in Germany. Restoration Act of professional bureaucracy released in April 1933 provoked the dismissal of dozens of leading masters of the Prussian Academy of Arts in Berlin and with teaching positions in art schools. Were also applied similar sanctions in relation to the progressive art critics, heads of the largest museums in the country. With the establishment of the Imperial House of Culture in November 1933 the possibility of lost thousands of artists who are excluded from its membership on racial grounds, because of political disloyalty or a passion for avant-garde.

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Quote:
Contrary to the entrenched view of history is not repeated.


Even as repeats.

You, dear Konstantin, probably hardly wait to pull out the place beforehand nakopirovannye in Interonet quotes.

You cite NS Khrushchev, who in his sensory education for the period worked hard in the mine, and so it stopped at the level of a locksmith.

You quote by Adolf Hitler, who probably was mentally ill and certainly - a failed artist never learned to draw professionally.

And where your's thought? Is a locksmith and a dropout better at expressing the essence of the problem? I would like to hear your arguments. If you do not agree - say with anything! Here people then, presumably, are to discuss something important to them.

There is a reception at the clam, squid - with a dangerous release of the anus cloud of haze and disappear under its cover.
It is a pity that the Forum that, though effective, but no human technique often used by participants.

Here I am, Nedogonov, believe that Hearst - not only an artist, but also socially dangerous phenomenon. I thoroughly explain its reasons, because I fear the Forum and the laws of communication, taken between people brought up.

What you are doing - it is pure manipulation. Gryaznovatenkaya with flavor. Otherwise - it is labeling. Your source for the citation, Adolf Hitler, did something similar, natseplyaya to representatives of the people who did not suit him asterisks.

So at one point I agree with you - history repeats itself ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

«You, Professor, as you will, something awkward invented! It may be, and smart, but painfully clear. Above you will make fun ».
(c)

[Yaya]

Nedogonov, in vain you're so angry. First, Bulgakov's the ruler of darkness - a positive hero. Secondly, the proof of Kant is not canonical. more than that. Kant himself did not believe in the Church five proofs of God's existence to be satisfactory. while it never occurred to question the existence of God himself. and that with the fact that Cyril gave this quote? this theme is not for this forum. offer it at all close.

[Art-lover]

Hurst, in my opinion, a mediocre artist. The main contribution to the creation of several truly spectacular project is likely to belong to his art-slaves.
But this does not negate the facts that he
- Received Turner Prize
- Represented Britain at the Venice Biennale
- Several years in a row topped the list of the most expensive contemporary artists
- In 2008 he headed the annual list of 100 most influential people in the world of contemporary art and so on.

One can argue, what does the phenomenon of "Hurst" is itself an art, but in terms of sociology and economics of contemporary art, its significance is obvious. And this is justified by the attention to him those who are professionally connected with artinvestments, and those who simply want to understand the ambiguous process of contemporary art.
Of course, the justification for attention to Hirst does not call for the taboo on criticism of the artist or the subjective rejection of his work. However, when the beat Hirst companions are taken scholars, whose thirst for condemnation of the practice of modern art out of proportion with the desire to understand their meaning podpleku, it is not complete without comic effect. Hirst exhibition in Kiev contributed to our militant antiaktualistam excellent opportunity for emotional unity on the basis-bitingly pathos overthrow evildoers - naive vilified Damien. Overthrow, of course, false and sham, as the whole line of the abstract and the ignorant opposition of "degenerate art" art is long, beautiful, vysokogumannomu.
The irony of this situation is that Hirst is a contemporary art yalyaetsya bearer of the movement for the mass concentration on the eternal, divine and humanity: its activities are intended to identify "instability foundations of human existence - love, death, loyalty, betrayal - by sudden and non-traditional means" , in another place "fundamental questions about the meaning of life and the fragility of existence."

Continue the conversation with сабжем. At this time Hirst questioned charming young lady from the "Ukrainian Truth". One can see why he tried to appear especially white and fluffy.

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- Judging by the image, which was formed by the press, you're a hardened cynic, if you have at least some ideals?

I do not feel myself a cynic. But I think that we should not complain about life, and to offer an alternative. And in general, no need for me to read the press (laughs).

- Where do the images? In your favorite artist Francis Bacon, whether the work of other artists of the sources of inspiration?

- I like Goya, an American artist Bruce Nauman, Jeff Koons - a fantastic artist!

I do not know why, but mad love art. It is interesting to observe how people react to art galleries, somebody like everything, someone exactly what the parents do not like it, someone said that this is not art.

- What other sources of inspiration? What do you think in this regard the policy?

- Many artists consciously trying to circumvent the policy. For example, I like advertising, then, as it uses a visual language. I think that the people who create advertising, use the same visual language that artists, they often use the idea of artists.

- you are a normal member of society: go to the elections, pay taxes, etc.? Or do you bully, who pretends to be a normal member of society?

- After I quit drinking, became more responsible. Taxes crying, and I do not like it, but what to do.
Before I did not vote, but with age begin to understand that you want to change that position, because, firstly, I have three children, and secondly, I pay taxes, and when you vote, even though the minimum can affect how taxpayers' money will be used.

- Does this force the art of social influence? Can the modern artist to influence society as much as a politician?

- I think it is always the art of influencing people. At the time, Picasso created "Guernica", and it affected people. Art drawn not only to everyday life, but for eternity. I always tried to avoid politics. I agree with the opinion of the writer Sylvia Platt. She said that the bomb shown on TV news, ideas, it does not bring her much more interested in forming a child or a tired mind doctor.

- At what age children can look at your work?

- I think we should allow children to look at contemporary art. My sons 13, 8, and 3 years, and I drove them to the exhibition Jeff Koons, there were represented fairly radical works with sexual content.

I am very worried about whether or not to show these pictures of my children, called the exhibit hall, said: maybe you have to cover yourself? They raised me to laugh. And when we, his sons came to the exhibition, they threw a glance at these works, said: fu, and went on. That is, for them it did not impress, and I, in fact, there was nothing to worry about.

- Sex and death affect the child's psyche in different ways ...

- Yes, of course, it touches us differently. If people come and complain, then I would have thought that should be taken. Because I do not want people to worry about such things, I want them to think about my work.

- Last fall, at Sotheby's, you have earned $ 200 000 000. How do you spend them?

- Unfortunately, most of that money went to taxes. And the rest is used to develop their own artistic ideas, which I do very much.

- You are the highest paid artist of our time, because the greatest?

- I do not think so. I always liked best the work of other artists - more than my own, because I always see their mistakes. The artist is always easier to do when there is no money, and he should be very careful when he got the money appear.

I grew up in a poor family, we do not have the money. When I was a kid, I thought that, perhaps, when people have too much money, it's the same problem when they are not at all. But now I realize that this is not true.

- 16-year-old artist Kartreyn used the image of your work "For the love of the Lord. Agency for Copyright Protection has imposed sanctions against the artist, explained by the fact that you personally ordered to bring him to justice. Is it true?

- It's not. Copyright - copyright is, but it was not my personal wish. Incidentally, I am writing paintings, using as source material photos of other people.

- How do you feel about the fact that your works and even your parody? Say what you think about the work of Eugenio Merino Suicide Hirst "?

- I would like to see me a little prettier portrayed. As for the rest, I will say this: the main thing - to not make a mistake in writing the name.

- What you feel when you see this?

- This, of course, is surprising. Once, for example, I discovered that my name - is the key to the crossword puzzles. Then realized - well, if so, then I seem to have succeeded (laughs).

- What do you think modern art is able to lose the irony and again become a deadly serious?

- If I thought so, then the art would not be doing.

- What is your real ambitions, to which you aspire?

- Continue to work, work and work. To never be in a situation that all of my works are sold to ...

So, although you can beat Hurst and sometimes even necessary, but let's do it without kindergarten sadism - all the father of three children, pay taxes, make charitable contributions, the work gives people ...: p
Shl way, in Kiev Hirst of all monuments like the most monumental sculpture "The Motherland". : rolleyes: