Images of the alphabet

[Магнолия]

Originally Posted by Magnolia , 2454761"

Search images eons continues .

Prayer topics and birth are closely related to each other , because it is the birth blurt (out loud or silently).
Looked history paintings by El Greco and beg the question : he was interested in the problem of birth or the birth itself something more concrete - material, awareness, news, truth? Does the interest over the years and in what direction?
I hope members of the forum to find out opinions .

[Самвел]

Originally Posted by Magnolia, 2456481

Does the interest over the years, and in which direction?

It is not clear, I'm interested to what?

[Магнолия]

Samvel, first of all, thank you for your attention.
Let me explain the issue . Table natural principles the birth differentsiiruetsya (subdivided ) on the birth of the physical body ( human, animal, germ, crystal, etc.) , the birth of consciousness of the living creatures ( especially humans ) , the birth of creation from idea to implementation and, finally, the birth of revelation ( faith mystical vision=high likelihood ).
Looking at paintings by El Greco, I want to get into his mind and see what the metaphor of birth , he wrote . One , the birth itself? Or he felt through semantics variety of birth ?
When metaphor portrayed barn , cattle, and the baby in the cradle, I read: " the birth of consciousness," something like the victory of Hercules over the Nemean lion. But when El Greco writes a baby surrounded by people , I think he wanted to say about the evolutionary birth of a special person , a creative personality or Misty.

[K-Maler]

Originally Posted by Magnolia , 2456591"

When metaphor depict a barn , cattle, and the baby in the cradle, I read: " the birth of consciousness," something like the victory of Hercules over the Nemean lion. But when El Greco writes a baby surrounded by people , I think he wanted to say about the evolutionary birth of a special person , a creative personality or Mista .

Magnolia, El Greco - a genius. He thought all at once and it's " all at once" - in his paintings , no matter what he portrayed.

[Самвел]

Originally Posted by Magnolia, 2456481

birth something more concrete - material, awareness, news, truth?

Do you think the mind (knowledge), it is the material?

[Магнолия]

Originally Posted by Samvel ; 2457641"

Do you think that consciousness (knowledge), it is the material ?

No. It really is. Consciousness , nor expression, really. In the process of expression skazyvaniem /clearly shown it materializes in the speech /the picture /in gesture and becomes knowledge.

In one of the texts I have considered the meaning of the phoneme "Al ", and somehow by itself revealed a sharp difference between the existence and reality.

Re_al_n_o .
If you remember , there is such a metaphor: Kronos and Rhea - the parents of Zeus and Hades.
K (X) ronos - the name of the translational motion. Re_ya . D - the name of the return movement. Hence re_stavratsiya , re_konstruktsiya , re_viziya ...
Al means "seeing the elect." Codes of "A" and "L" , I wrote in the essay "Images of the alphabet ( instead of letters )" and " intell ...".
The combination of " n_o " deciphered as " known by many times ," so it is attributed consecration , that is in tongues - clear , cold, crowded , of course ...

[Магнолия]

Originally Posted by K-Maler

all at once and it's "all at once" - in pictures,

Dear K-Maler, of "all at once," I see the situation more clearly "Birth of Truth"





and the circumstances of "birth of human consciousness"





"Creation of matter" and the "birth of conduct" Keep looking.

[Самвел]

Originally Posted by Magnolia, 2457741"

In one of the texts I have considered the meaning of the phoneme "Al", and somehow by itself revealed a sharp difference between the existence and reality.

 I can not find time to respond to the account of the materiality of consciousness as something then, and here the difference between existence and reality, there is something of GI Gurdjieff. (Essence and personality) Essence and Personality
America, March 29, 1929

... You need to understand that in every man there are two completely separate parts, like two different people - his essence and his personality.

Essence - this "I", our inheritance, our type, nature, nature.

Personality - a random thing: education, education, attitudes, ie all external. It's like the clothes you wear, your artificial mask, the result of your upbringing, your environment influences, opinions, consisting of information and knowledge: such views are changed daily, one of them cancels another.

Today you believe in one, believe it and want it. Tomorrow, under the influence of other influence your belief and your desires are different. All the material that make up your personality, you can completely change by artificial means or by accident, along with a change of the conditions around you and place. This change can happen in a very short time.

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The essence does not change. For example, I have a dark skin, and I will be what is born. This is my type of accessory.

When we speak here of the development and change, we are talking about an entity. Personality is in bondage, and she can change very quickly, in about a half hour. For example, through hypnosis, you can change your beliefs. This is possible because they are foreign to you, not your property. And that applies to our being - it is our property.

We are always creating opinion within the entity. All influence is mechanical excites an opinion. You can love me mechanically, and thus mechanically register this impression of me. But this is not you. This impression comes not from consciousness, it comes mechanically. Likes and dislikes - this question type match, deep down you love me, and even though you know the mind, that I - a bad person, that I do not deserve your location, you can not stop loving me. Or again, you can see that I am a good person, but you do not love me, and so the case remains in place.

But you can not create internal views. Currently, you can not do it because your nature is a function. Entity composed of many centers, but the person has only one center - forming apparatus.

The thing is ... to restore the lost, not to acquire anything new. It is the goal of development. You must distinguish between essence and personality, separate them. When you learn this, you'll see how and what to change. Meanwhile, you are left with only one option - to study. You are weak, dependent, in bondage. It is hard to like this, just break the habits that have accumulated over for years. Later be replaced by some other habits that will also be mechanical. Man is always dependent on external influences, but some of the effects prevent it, some do not.

To begin with, we need to prepare for work, many of these conditions. Currently, you can only watch and collect material that is useful to work, you will not be able to distinguish where your symptoms come from the spirit, or the individual. But if you look carefully, you may later realize it. Until you collect the material, you can not see anything: usually a person is only one consideration, aimed at what he does. His mind does not see sense and vice versa.

For more surveillance is needed, above all honesty with himself. It is very difficult, much easier to be honest with others. The man is afraid to see something bad, afraid, looking casually deep within, he sees his own stuff, his own insignificance. We have a habit banish thoughts about ourselves because we are afraid of remorse. Sincerity may be the key that opens the door, and through it one part of us sees the other. With a sincerity, a person is able to look and see something. Sincerity with oneself is very difficult, because the essence of overgrown thick crust. Year after year, the person puts on new clothes, a new mask. All this should be gradually removed, we have to free ourselves, to reveal. As long as one is not revealed, he will not see. There is one exercise that is very useful in the beginning, it helps us to see ourselves, to collect material. This exercise is to get into the position of another person. You need to take it as a challenge. Explain what I mean. Take the simple fact. I know that by tomorrow, you need a hundred dollars, and you do not got, tried to get it, but failed. You are depressed. Your thoughts and feelings are busy with this problem. In the evening, you sit here, in a lecture, one half of your continuing to think about money. You are not careful, nervousness. If I was rude to you at another time, you would not get mad as they are today. Maybe tomorrow, when you will take the money, you will laugh at themselves. And now, seeing that you are angry. I know that you are not always so, try to access your location. I wonder what I'd do in your place, if someone showed me rude. Often asking myself that question, I soon realize that if you are being rude or angry offended, then, at the time and it had a reason. I soon realize that all men are alike, and no one of them is always good or always bad. We are all the same: how to change me. so too does the other. If you understand this, well, remember, if you think of your task and perform it'll be the right time, you will discover many new things in themselves and in their environment, a lot of things not seen before. This is the first step.

The second step - the practice of concentration. Through this exercise, you will be able to reach the other. Introspection is very difficult, but it can give a lot, great stuff. If you remember how you show yourself as you wish, as regulate how you feel, you learn a lot. Sometimes immediately be able to understand what is the idea that it feels like a body.

Every part of us is at a different impact, and if we let go of one, we become slaves to the other. For example, I can achieve freedom in the sphere of the mind, but can not change the emanations of his body - the body reacts differently. The person sitting next to me, affects me his emanations. I know. I should be polite to him, but feel antipathy to him. Each center has its own emanations, and sometimes there is no escape from them. Very useful to combine the exercise is to put yourself in the other, with introspection.

But we all forget and remember only the "afterthought". At the right moment our attention is taken, for example. the fact that we do not like this person, and we feel that nothing we can do about it. But the facts should not be forgotten: they should be registered in the memory. The taste experience is retained only for a while. Left unchecked, symptoms disappear. Need to put a place in the memory, or you will forget everything. But we want to - not to forget. There are many things that are rarely repeated. Any chance you saw something, but if you do not fix what they saw in the memory, you will forget it and lose. If you want to "find America", you need to capture it in memory. Sitting in a room, you do not see it necessary to observe life. In your room you will not be able to master. A man can be strong in the monastery, but weak in life, and we need a force for life. For example, in the monastery one can a week without food, but in life he can not do without it, and three hours. Which in this case is the use of its exercise?

[Valerit]

In svyai from Memorial Pushkin



A green oak;

A golden chain on the oak:

Day and night the cat scientist

Everything goes on the chain around;

...


Do not switch it?

[Магнолия]

Originally Posted by Valerit

key is not it?

Valerit, you're right, this is the key.
This interpretation of the tale of the Golden Bough, the solution of which Dzh.Frezer devoted his entire life.