A stack of theses on the market confusion

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Samvel

and yet interestingly, after a man old enough and knew what distinctive qualities it takes?

Typically, problems with social communication and headache. And yet - look at Ecclesiastes.

Сообщение от Veronic

that is, Are you implying that nobody really understands? or there are those enlightened few who managed? And you yourself who classifies himself to?

Prsvetlennye not understand. His attitude to the world they define different shaped (vision, stay in the flow, etc.) - but always with the caveat that the words quality of enlightenment inexpressible. Understanding - a personal feeling. Enlightenment - the impersonal state.
In the enlightened state is not a number, a union am not a guru.

Сообщение от Veronic

tell Art-lover, a painting in the church - is utilitarian or not the quality of art (I mean the Catholic Church) and which role they take, in your opinion, are the days when they were created ?

Veronic, you are not correctly formulated question. Nata you partially answered. The paintings in the church utilitarian.

Сообщение от uriart

I got the impression that the ART-LOVER or enroll or make their own inferences.

I'm not recorded.
And I believe that a gentleman can take renal another gentleman only when he sleeps under the bunks another gentleman. Or if he is by profession uriolog.

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

In other words (no buttons):
... "In other words," Culture "- this course, inconceivably difficult time for the verbal explanation and logical understanding permeates (on a subconscious level?) The act of creation and which internalize (?) Of the unwritten rules?
(Leah did not understand correctly?)

Somewhere in this direction. But no buttons to be unfastened. Seriously.


Ladies and gentlemen, if we understand everything today, what shall we do tomorrow? <!--~ A ~-->)
Good night.

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от Art-lover

In the State of enlightened not a number, a union am not a guru.

You - out-of-staff ...
And the trade unions - you know, it ...

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Marta

You can queue "and clarify what you mean by ignorance?
In fact, in most works of art is very much clear - composition, technique, warehouse personality of the artist that he chuvstvovoval and wanted to say /convey the "spirit of time" i.t.p. Maybe not until the end or in their own way, the magic begins in the whole perception ....

Dame - queue .
Marta, you're done for magic. But to explain - it is disenchanted.

Сообщение от Maroussia

But this is not wanted! There must be a mystery, even to something in our life ...

Must. In the "whole field of perception" we "magical" way something going through, but not "understand". A preliminary interpretation of everything that can be interpreted as subjective understanding ("composition, technique, warehouse personality of the artist ..."), remain behind.

Posted 1 hour 39 minutes
Violated once more turn, because Tiutchev very difficult interlocutor.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Quote: Communication from the Art-lover
A work of art - a thing in itself, and if anyone thinks that he understands what a work of art, it is simply not aware of their misunderstanding. Why?

Because

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

One can understand well, tomorrow anyway.
Understanding is always individual, and certainly incomplete.

That is, if we recognize that our understanding of the unstable ("man - a thinking reed"), individually and incomplete, we are aware of the limitations of his understanding - his lack of understanding.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

You, apparently under the understanding does not understand what is it is.

I think that our perception of art and life would be better if we stop ignoring the historically established variety of approaches to the understanding of understanding.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

The process of understanding - a dialogue not only with the product, but also with ourselves, others, who perceives it.
It is therefore important figure of the critic, especially a good critic.

So important that in contemporary art criticism was overblown grandeur of a big problem: the critic became the curator and curator of the mutated into an artist. Artists in the old sense, only now the curator of the elements of the palette used for the design of his projects ("artist - this is a bad curator, etc.)
That fact is what can bring the process of understanding the art of ...

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Art-lover

I think that our perception of art and life would be better if we stop ignoring the historically established variety of approaches to the understanding of understanding.

Yes! (And this is understood!)

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Art-lover

if we recognize that our understanding of the unstable ("man - a thinking reed"), individually and incomplete, we are aware of the limitations of his understanding - his lack of understanding.

It's not the "instability" of understanding (in life in general, all unstable, as we know, apart from faith in God, if it is strong), and that understanding is the thing dynamic.

Even their parents understand the child differently, and more interesting to understand this sense than incomplete understanding (and understanding of the definition can not be complete) reduced to just "misunderstanding."

Or, in your opinion, misunderstanding can be небанальным?

[NATA NOVA]

Igor Guriev, "faith" and "understanding"-are diametrically opposed!

A lot can not be understood (one can only believe *!)

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*- But you can not believe it!

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Igor Guriev, "faith" and "understanding"-are diametrically opposed!

Faith and understanding - it is red and sweet.

Red is not opposed to sugar.

Сообщение от Art-lover

I think that our perception of art and life would be better if we stop ignoring the historically established variety of approaches to the understanding of understanding.

In other words:

Our understanding of art and life would be better if we stop ignoring the historically established variety of approaches to the understanding of understanding.

As well as approaches to tautology tautology.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Faith and understanding - it is red and sweet.

Red is not opposed to sugar.

Can examples back up? (For those who do not understand a hint) ..

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Can examples to back?

Well.

For example, I punctured a tire on a bicycle.

I believe that I can repair a bicycle, and I know how to do it.

Where is the opposition?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I believe that I can repair the bike, and I know how to do it.

Igor Guriev, "assumptions" is not faith! is different!

(Sorry, that said, did not imply that all is running well ..)