Go Back   Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство > English forum > Auctions
 English | Русский Forum ARTinvestment.RU RSS Register Blogs FAQ Community Today's Posts Search

Auctions Discuss art auctions.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23-04-2009, 19:43 Original language: Russian        #31
Гуру
 
Vladimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,085
Thanks: 3,353
Thanked 25,446 Times in 5,540 Posts
Reputation: 23527
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
Dear Vladimir, could you comment on the sale of lots 76,81.
-----------------------
Lot76. A. Gerasimov (74h89sm.holst, oil 1944. (30-40t.) Sold for 74,600 dollars.
Work itself, I commented in the article.

Quote:
Canvas Alexander Gerasimov's like a gift connoisseurs of socialist realism on the birthday of Lenin. A theme is what is - the nail on the head. This is Tehran-43. Meeting of the Franklin Delano Roosevelt with the Shah of Iran Mohhamedom Reza Pahlavi (Pahlavi) at the conference the Allies in 1943, the year of recognition of the independence of Iran. Famously twisted, right? Canvas estimated at 30-40 thousand dollars. Price of care such unusual work difficult to predict. According to AI, the likely outcome of the bidding - 25 thousand dollars or "not sold". In Russia there is a group of collectors, for whom the status of Soviet academician is a qualitative criterion. But they are not accustomed to buying in Britain, but in their own country, where there is adequate supply in this area. Specific same work, according to AI, sums up the plot: be there, along with Roosevelt did not check, and Stalin, the interest in the work would be much higher.
Essentially, my opinion remains unchanged. Individual effects auction results are a good help to commerce, but the major findings of a sale will not build. The work is very niche, much to the amateur, will work well for design of a house Iranian-American friendship. It is hoped that they had already built and pre-plan design of interiors.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
Lot81. D. Krasnopevtsev (69h49, 5sm.holst, oil. (35-45t).. Sold for 46,875 dollars.
Again, hold my opinion

Quote:
For Krasnopevtsev to approximately 1962 collectors hunt is not much. The early period to which this unusual - very colorful - still life, is valued considerably less than the sparing of the color of mature metaphysical period. Gray or warm brown detached still life - now that is not power. A year or two will really fascinating things. And any "stove" monochrome period would cost at least twice as expensive as presented by the stoves in 1960. Estimate of the things assigned reasonable. According to AI, the seller is unlikely to amount in excess of 40 thousand dollars.
Stove selling out for 46 thousand and 40 thousand AI predicted. Again working heavily on an amateur, a valuable period in Krasnopevtsev come later.



Vladimir is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Vladimir For This Useful Post:
Glasha (23-04-2009), SAH (23-04-2009), Кирилл Сызранский (23-04-2009)
Old 23-04-2009, 19:50 Original language: Russian        #32
Гуру
 
Кирилл Сызранский's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: РФ, Самара
Posts: 75,449
Thanks: 27,871
Thanked 55,339 Times in 24,289 Posts
Blog Entries: 126
Reputation: 102399
Send a message via Skype™ to Кирилл Сызранский
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tit View Post
For some reason, nobody in the survey, nor in the discussion did not pay attention to the work of A. Volkov.
And what wolves?
Not the same?
Alexander Volkov Caravan. 1920
Watercolor, mixed media. 21,6 x 38,1
Estimate: 30-50 thousand dollars
Forecast AI: 30 thousand dollars
Christie's. 24.04.09. Lot number 365
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Волков.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	38.0 KB
ID:	214646  



Кирилл Сызранский is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-04-2009, 19:54 Original language: Russian        #33
Гуру
 
Кирилл Сызранский's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: РФ, Самара
Posts: 75,449
Thanks: 27,871
Thanked 55,339 Times in 24,289 Posts
Blog Entries: 126
Reputation: 102399
Send a message via Skype™ to Кирилл Сызранский
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
a valuable period in Krasnopevtsev come later.
For example, tomorrow:
Dmitry Krasnopevtsev Bowl with Bone
1963. Oil on masonite. 53,2 x 49,5
Estimate: 30-40 thousand dollars
Forecast AI: 65 thousand dollars
Christie's. 24.04.09. Lot number 387



Кирилл Сызранский is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-04-2009, 19:58 Original language: Russian        #34
Гуру
 
Vladimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,085
Thanks: 3,353
Thanked 25,446 Times in 5,540 Posts
Reputation: 23527
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post

Vladimir, you recently in the form of a very disrespectful comment on the work of artist A. Gerasimov in the upcoming auction Christie.
http://artinvestment.ru/invest/analy...ies_april.html
In the sense described estimate of "Peony" Gerasimov in the 120-180 thousand dollars funny? That someone? Eugene, well, let us approach the matter rationally. Gerasimov's "Peony" is already 77 years since the end of 1930 he was a big union functionary, official, social worker, how could they work. To a small still life was worth 180 thousand - this should be a thing of divine beauty, the apotheosis of inspiration, smasher or innovative. Is it? Hardly. Simultaneously Gerasimov almost as peonies drew hundreds of thousands of Soviet artists and amateurs. A difference in the skill of their execution does not change the essence of the problem.

[color="# 666686"]Added after 13 minutes[/color]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
SergeiSK, Vladimir interesting to listen.
Review of which he wrote about the upcoming Christie's auction biased, but sorry, had a more serious approach to the topic.
Eugene, you complicate my task. 10 minutes had to rummage in the dictionary to find the meaning of the word "biased". And then I reread the forecast, to understand the essence of the claims. You mean biased? Then, yes, biased. The review included only those works, which have caused at least some emotion. I feel I was lucky that one of the 11 forecasted work did not include a single work of Soviet academician. And it would have to meet again on the items. If your anger has caused the term "socialist idealism, I admit - the phrase does not belong to me. I "steal" it from the catalog of the Tretyakov Gallery. And it served vdohnolveniem Gerasimov.



Vladimir is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Vladimir For This Useful Post:
Meister (24-04-2009), Кирилл Сызранский (23-04-2009), ФАИв (23-04-2009)
Old 23-04-2009, 20:27 Original language: Russian        #35
Гуру
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 14,663
Thanks: 18,865
Thanked 16,458 Times in 4,506 Posts
Blog Entries: 254
Reputation: 32445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
To a small still life was worth 180 thousand - this should be a thing of divine beauty, the apotheosis of inspiration,
Recently, and for 300t.dollarov sold ..., portrait-70t.dollarov (auction Sovkom "), etc.

Vladimir, Thank you for kommentarii.Kazhdy left to his opinion ...
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
Eugene, well, let us approach the matter rationally. Gerasimov's "Peony" is already 77 years since the end of 1930 he was a big union functionary, official, social worker, how could they work. To a small still life was worth 180 thousand - this should be a thing of divine beauty, the apotheosis of inspiration, smasher or innovative. Is it? Hardly.
The work sold for 146,500 dollars.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
But the same continuous "Peony" for which to praise? For painting?
This is not a continuous painting, and a collector.



Евгений is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-04-2009, 23:00 Original language: Russian        #36
Гуру
 
Vladimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,085
Thanks: 3,353
Thanked 25,446 Times in 5,540 Posts
Reputation: 23527
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
Vladimir, Thank you for your comments.
No problem. Ask for more.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugene View Post
Everyone was left to his own opinion ...
Here is what is strange. Then for what we break the spear? I think we should abandon the principle of a fight (no matter who is right, there is simply his own and other people have) in the long-standing opposition to socialist realists vs nonconformists. This argument has already exhausted all. Should IMHO make it a rule to discuss the pros and cons of specific works, rather than past achievements of their authors. I really sympathize with the unofficial post-war art. But if the auction goes Veisberg poor work or very fair Tselkov or Nemukhin the figure rested, then nobody in the AI will not be breathless praise these things only because they created the first names on the "other art". And the reviews we write honestly about it. The same, well, who stirred language to criticize the "Future Pilot" or "New Moscow" Stalinist academics? Silly same. But the same continuous "Peony" for which to praise? For painting? So that the right to return to the discussion of specific things, not people.



Vladimir is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Vladimir For This Useful Post:
Allena (05-11-2009), Glasha (24-04-2009), Meister (24-04-2009), SAH (23-04-2009), Sandro (24-04-2009), Кирилл Сызранский (23-04-2009)
Old 24-04-2009, 00:31 Original language: Russian        #37
Гуру
 
K-Maler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,608
Thanks: 9,556
Thanked 3,682 Times in 1,692 Posts
Reputation: 6490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky View Post
What happens "in the nearest 2-3 years?
Stop buying non-conformists? Or Gerasimov reach one million bars?
That is really interesting, especially when that "buying names. But some figures of non-conformism were "unwound" and the background was political, not always expressed in the works themselves. I want to say that over time the political content (context) forgotten, what will happen with socialist realism, especially in the part where manifested professional masterstvo.I who then choose?



K-Maler is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to K-Maler For This Useful Post:
Allena (05-11-2009), dedulya37 (24-04-2009), Евгений (24-04-2009)
Old 24-04-2009, 00:37 Original language: Russian        #38
Гуру
 
Кирилл Сызранский's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: РФ, Самара
Posts: 75,449
Thanks: 27,871
Thanked 55,339 Times in 24,289 Posts
Blog Entries: 126
Reputation: 102399
Send a message via Skype™ to Кирилл Сызранский
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Maler View Post
I want to say that over time the political content (context) will be forgotten,
Yes, already forgotten, I think.
It's only art historians remember someone shouting at the head of state: "What are you - men or fag damn how can you write ?". (c)



Кирилл Сызранский is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Кирилл Сызранский For This Useful Post:
Glasha (24-04-2009), K-Maler (24-04-2009)
Old 24-04-2009, 00:43 Original language: Russian        #39
Старожил
 
Синица's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Москва, Жуковский
Posts: 671
Thanks: 1,763
Thanked 720 Times in 167 Posts
Reputation: 1199
Default

:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky View Post
And what wolves?
Not the same?
And this is good ... But the graphics and the ability it "disappears"

I had a view of the fact that at Sotheby's went unnoticed - big oil, 44god, Lot 33.
Wonderful, in my opinion ...: o



Синица is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2009, 00:50 Original language: Russian        #40
Гуру
 
Кирилл Сызранский's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: РФ, Самара
Posts: 75,449
Thanks: 27,871
Thanked 55,339 Times in 24,289 Posts
Blog Entries: 126
Reputation: 102399
Send a message via Skype™ to Кирилл Сызранский
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tit View Post
I had a view of the fact that at Sotheby's went unnoticed - big oil, 44god, Lot 33.
Yes, something he could not see he looked.

LOT 33

PROPERTY FROM A PRIVATE COLLECTION, WISCONSIN
ALEXANDER VOLKOV
RUSSIAN, 1886 - 1957
MORNING IN SHAKHMARDAN

120,000-180,000 USD
Lot Sold. Hammer Price with Buyer's Premium: 218,500 USD



Кирилл Сызранский is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
sotheby's, antiques, art market, Russian artists, Soviet artists


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The first retrospective of Emil Nolde (1867 -) in Paris LCR Exhibitions and events 32 28-04-2014 13:44
Markin collection sells for 100 million? Vladimir Chatter 23 12-12-2008 10:14
Results of the "Russian Trading in London Евгений Auctions 22 10-12-2008 14:17
Indicators of investment risk for the "Russian auctions" Vladimir Auctions 2 27-11-2008 22:20
"Russian auction" at Sotheby's brought more than 14 million pounds Евгений Auctions 10 27-11-2008 19:10





All times are GMT +3. The time now is 20:37.
Telegram - Contact Us - Обработка персональных данных - Archive - Top


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.