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Old 05-04-2009, 08:25 Original language: Russian        #11
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And the presence of large numbers of beggars - this is the main condition for success
      I have one friend - "the artist-businessman, he maintains a" Master Class ". Made "colossal" directory. The entire catalog - they are large photos, A4, and under every photo fat short text: "We draw", "Vasya with the picture", etc. When I saw said that a grown man can not do so, on what he just laughed and said that I did not redeem the "spirit of the time! As a result of the success of the catalog and follow-up was really huge! People in the queue, clutching his heart that directory. Apparently I did not redeem "something, but do not want to! As in the house with a bad roof leaks rain, and a poorly developed mind seeps primitive simplicity.



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Artem, if I understand you correctly, you are comfortable with the fact that some people are very active in the media space, and I share your point of view, but only on those cases where there is some harmless attempt to entertain the audience. At the same time, when, in my opinion, attempts to substitute something really valuable sort of surrogate, I think it necessary to point this out. The reasons are several. I will try to lead, in my opinion, the main ones.
1. There is internal (psychological) need to identify these phenomena, ie separate grain from the chaff. And in the process of communication is realized this need and honed skills to do it. (And anyway, the conversation - this is haute fun. By the way, on this occasion, I can not express my special gratitude to the organizers of this forum for the opportunity to get this pleasure.)
2. There is concern, prompted by my professional activities. Insofar as I'm swamped, and the subsequent sale of unique pieces of art (although what else could they be!), I'm not interested in that, in my "diocese" invaded fraudsters selling of questionable value. Sooner or later people realize that "the king is - naked, and then they no longer desire to acquire objects of this art. (This, incidentally, also applies to the subject of examination. The fact that the forum expressed doubts about the usefulness to debate the authenticity of works of art.) Though, it must be admitted that this problem is eternal (the existence of real values causes the presence of the imaginary), and therefore in terms of dialectics, practically unsolvable.
3. And I, I hope that this somebody will be useful, ie someone help "fix the roof." But this is pride.
P.S. There are so many in recent years has divorced Hurst, Xenia stool, Nicosia Sofronova, Bezrukov and other counterfeiters!



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Old 06-04-2009, 07:21 Original language: Russian        #13
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Good exhibition held recently and the people gathered no less than that of Hirst. Grade 5 as an art dealer.

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Old 06-04-2009, 07:24 Original language: Russian        #14
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counterfeiters!
Here you are wrong.: Shy:
  Footwear was Ksenia and her mom. Narusova LB (mother K. Sobchak) have reviewed and confirmed the authenticity of all the artifacts.

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And I, I hope that this somebody will be useful, ie someone help "fix the roof." But this is pride.
You're right, it is pride .. "fix" their hard ..



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Old 06-04-2009, 09:32 Original language: Russian        #15
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platitude, though like all the "creativity" of this gentleman. When nothing to say, it uttered such empty phrases.
     Recipe from the Hearst - open something new and invent a better future, but do not forget to make the lessons of the past. How pathetic! In Anglo-Saxon straight! And puritanical gone! This whole Hurst!
Tjutchev, I think, you misunderstood me. seemed to me that you have decided that the text I was writing about Hearst. goodness sake! this press release. I received an invitation to an exhibition of PinchukArtCentre with this text (he, incidentally, they hung on the site). and I just shared this news. all! I do not want anyone to campaign for Hearst. although, frankly, think that the answer to the question of genius, he or vulgar will become apparent in 50 years, after this good man pass away. omitting the question of hudtsennosti canned animals, like people, relevant to cultural studies, I can say that a person comrade. Hirst and his work (in quotation marks or not, as you like) - a very curious phenomenon to the researcher. as well noticed recently Ilya Chichkan, Hirst can love or hate, but from it can not avoid it.



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a very curious phenomenon to the researcher.
Interestingly, the phenomenon of art-business (marketing, advertising, sales promotion, public relations companies, etc.), problems of biological safety of canned animals (for biologists )....
What is the difference, Ksenia Sobchak, with an exhibition of old shoes and canned animals Hirst ... Shoes in Ksyusha though not disappear in 10-15 years (descendants will admire, art historians write articles).



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Eugene, I do not know! Did you not last year defended Hirst?



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So he forges his modest fortune in sweat with two stores, workshops and trusted dealer
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Did you not last year defended Hirst?
To me, he remained a great art-dealer, ingenious hoaxer sovremennosti.Ego art business a lot of respect, young man.



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Tjutchev, I think, you misunderstood me. seemed to me that you have decided that the text I was writing about Hearst. goodness sake! this press release. I received an invitation to an exhibition of PinchukArtCentre with this text (he, incidentally, they hung on the site). and I just shared this news. all! I do not want anyone to campaign for Hearst. although, frankly, think that the answer to the question of genius, he or vulgar will become apparent in 50 years, after this good man pass away. omitting the question of hudtsennosti canned animals, like people, relevant to cultural studies, I can say that a person comrade. Hirst and his work (in quotation marks or not, as you like) - a very curious phenomenon to the researcher. as well noticed recently Ilya Chichkan, Hirst can love or hate, but from it can not avoid it.
      Dear Yaya, of course, I could not in any way to think about what you wrote is this mad text. Is it because I might offend you? I have a long-standing hostility to the work of Hurst. That's why I react to reports about him. Thank you for the fact that once gave rise to speak about this "very interesting phenomenon to the researcher." Only explore Hirst, I think you need in microbiology as a primitive form of life. As for the fact that from it "can not escape, I will give you advice - avoid the draft, not in contact with already infected, and keep your feet warm.



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Dear Yaya, of course, I could not in any way to think about what you wrote is this mad text. Is it because I might offend you? I have a long-standing hostility to the work of Hurst. That's why I react to reports about him. Thank you for the fact that once gave rise to speak about this "very interesting phenomenon to the researcher." Only explore Hirst, I think you need in microbiology as a primitive form of life. As for the fact that from it "can not escape, I will give you advice - avoid the draft, not in contact with already infected, and keep your feet warm.
Tjutchev, Oh, thank you! A pity that your valuable advice to me is not useful. I have neither the temperament nor the intentions of the person having the habit of hiding from the draft. On the contrary - practice yoga and tempering. What to you want. By the way, in a poorly ventilated area badly circulates qi energy (shutka. well, maybe it's true - I do not know) and the bacteria proliferate wildly, making without any contact with infected, you can pick up any virus. Not to mention the melancholy. In this state, so even with wrapped legs, you'll be like "to plant a mimosa in the Botanical Gardens. So breathe deeply!



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