Exhibition VLADEY

[Vladimir]

It can not be deducted, but the last time and starts and sometimes drifts were below the estimate.
Maybe we wrote about it in a report from the floor of trades, but I do not remember.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от bykinist

In the official rules of the auction the word "price" ...

 
Yes, I see:
 

Auctioneer, exposing lots up for auction, announcing their names and the starting price.

By the way, first lot is not with the estimate, and with

Starting price $ 100

[bykinist]

Сообщение от Irina

As far as I 'm concerned , "droit de suite" ( droit ) applies to all the authors and the living and the deceased (to be paid to their heirs ) , but only if they are not the sellers.

It turns out that the " fox " is still not himself Inal put up for auction , as you wrote earlier. At least , certainly not " directly " .

Сообщение от Irina

Presented at the auction version of the " Fox " is now available for auction directly from the author , so with this " story " everything is OK, but not on , for example, the employee Turkina belt .

As for the droit de suite, then there has to be some kind of limitation period (say after the death of the artist) , when the rule is no longer applicable ?
After all, we do not pay the droit de suite of paintings by old masters , even if they came from a family of artists . I think there is a significant copyright , if it had not been expropriated , and the fact , so to speak , sound artist. In short , I'm confused .

Сообщение от Aka Petr

And at the last auction were high prices, and it was in my opinion 75 %of care - which, of course , raises questions <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Care was 71 %- which, of course , raises questions ) )

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Сообщение от Aka Petr

as it was in my care 75%

Сообщение от bykinist

care was 71%

Care was 73%.

[Aka Petr]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2807421 "

What kind of questions? We have plenty of places to buy contemporary art ?

Cyril, legitimate questions : according to the same AI average percentage of care for the Russian auctions 40%( just read in the interview with the same AI Mr. Ovcharenko ) . Held the first auction , I can not say that the much-touted , and the percentage of care on it 73%(as you write above <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ) . Thus we read in the report, AI ( yes in my opinion and almost Kommersant ), which is in the hall - sitting on the ground <! - ~ 1 ~ -> - there were plenty of people with whom communicated by the organizer of a friendly during the tendering , called by the name , ie, a small party . There is a logical question - and it does not look all or in part as an elementary " Decree (k) and " to prices rising , the collection became more expensive , untwisted area , etc. In fact , of course, say so no one will, and it is good if it is not, but the sediment is <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And another question arises - is it worth to take part in such an auction as a potential buyer, to possibly serve as cannon fodder for the real players - well, or buy in the end for stranded costs . I've said to myself that maybe it's paranoia, but still probably not worth <! - ~ 1 ~ -> although my subject lots is. and each , of course, decide for yourself .

And to the question , then where to buy and how much do we have places for that , then you can safely say that enough. If you take the sixties , they and other auction sites are in Russia and in the West and in the galleries and dealers offer the same forum AI. And with contemporary art even easier - there's Art Moscow , there are galleries , dealers have the same , but there are still other facebook + internet - where you can easily find a piece of art , especially the young . But the most important thing - I think that anyone who buys such an art , as represented in the auction, there is 2-3-4-5 dealers that this art was offered in sufficient quantity - all the same artists , and , sometimes, at prices below the lower estimate: <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And one more thing - when you have allocated to a chair in the hall , you need to sign the purchase <! - ~ 1 ~ -> or to be paid for attending the pre-auction exhibition, for me, it smells like the 90- ties of the crimson and jackets , and so a new audience , as referred to in the interview, not exactly conquer , but rather to frighten off . A trifle, but unpleasantly <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Here was such a solid criticism , but there are certainly pluses and that such auctions are held , I only <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Added after 8 minutes
by the way was in February auction litkabinet , so there also were the sixties, and Conceptualism , and contemporary artists, and prices were pochelovechnee (at least on the Sixties ) - so there was some care ? 20%percent , I guess. And the second time was conducted . And in the hall was full of people. So they sat down everyone who wanted <! - ~ 1 ~ -> no one in the wallet did not look <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[bykinist]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Care was 73%.

a total of 55 lots, it took 39, we believe ...
70.9%, rounded 71%

is not it?
))

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от bykinist

is not it?!

I did not think polotovo and calculated the percentage is not, trust this:

Let's start with sincere congratulations.
No options: 73%of sales for the first time - a phenomenally good result.

[манна]

Сообщение от Aka Petr; 2807861 "

And another question arises - is it worth to take part in such an auction as a potential buyer that may serve as cannon fodder for the real players - well, or buy in the end for stranded costs . I've said to myself that maybe it's paranoia, but all the same , you probably should not even on my topic items are. and each , of course, decide for himself .

Aka Petr, with such thoughts ( of cannon fodder ) just not worth it ... it's fun .... why myself for the money to spoil the mood .

I can say nothing about the auction VLADEY, was not . And at some charity ( led Ovcharenko ) was . She wanted to "Bread" Osmolovsky buy, the start was acceptable (can not remember ) . So I do not look back in time, it became 8.000 euros. He has seen the ( tried and tested ) customers , as a support group . Incidentally, this is a worldwide practice. The client supports the gallery owner who bought the work of the artist, who is in the collection. Since This gallery owner needs funds for further promotion of this artist. This mutual responsibility , in the best sense of the word.

I bought in the summer at Popova Grossitskogo , 2 of , well of course more expensive than the most Andrei Borisovich. But he is actually engaged in it , plus I work 40 to choose from , well, anyway ... Popov darling ... if I had a gallery , I would have " girls " he sent for training ( training of customer service ) ..

 So I'm not surprised by the departure of 70%.....

[U_Z]

Konstantin, Vladimir, Thank you!
Great interview, really, groovy.
Congratulations!


http://artinvestment.ru/invest/inter...vcharenko.html

[Aka Petr]

Сообщение от manna ; 2808031 "

with such thoughts ( of cannon fodder ) just not worth it ... it's fun .... why myself for the money to spoil the mood

exactly , it is about what I'm saying <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Сообщение от manna ; 2808031"

This , incidentally, is a worldwide practice. The client supports the gallery owner who bought the work of the artist, who is in the collection. Since This gallery owner needs funds for further promotion of this artist. This mutual responsibility , in a good way

Well, a gallery owner in this case and do not forget about yourself , in which, of course , nothing wrong there , too . And to the question , it's a good esprit de corps or bad , everyone has his own answer - some call it a promotion of the artist " , while others - " the construction of the pyramid "or" inflating the bubble . " The question is, what will happen when closed circle run out of money or the desire to " promote " a particular artist - and demand from outside the circle there is no <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

There are a lot depends , why bother to buy. If you buy that then become more expensive , of course , it is better when there is a promotion that you , Mann described. If you buy , because I just like to buy <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ( this kind of shopping ) , it is also good because it is still for how much. And if you buy, because it's like a certain artist, it is impossible not to buy, then it seems to me better to buy cheaper , because more of the artist can be bought for the same money <! - ~ 1 ~ -> I think that all of the above reasons is in each and every purchase , but in different proportions , so here is an individual matter

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Сообщение от manna

2 works well, certainly more expensive than the most Andrei Borisovich

well, I better to buy other things being equal cheaper than the more expensive <! - ~ 1 ~ ->