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Старый 03.07.2010, 19:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Recently, I began to listen to TV show "Fashion sentence.
That's right, not watch, and listen.
I just enjoy this Russian language from Alexander Vassiliev.
Of course, on television there are others: Wolf, Radzinsky, Posner, whose Russian language admired. But Vasilyev - from relatively young.
It so happened that the Russian language has become lost or, if it so desired, to become obstructed.
Young presenters (as young kids, just get rid of the bar) and jump bleating something unintelligible. And, in between the scientific and popular practical transfers of "How to become a bandit, often interspersed interesting talk about breeding my lack of dandruff.
Of course, where the bandits knowledge of Russian. Position class ladies in areas not yet introduced and is unlikely to impose. And what you take from the foreign experts dandruff?
Where and they know this Russian?

The tool of our communication (the Internet) is contaminated with Americanism, neologisms and acronyms. Nothing extraordinary - we will survive in these conditions and had not forgotten how to speak (write) in Russian, if, before they could.
Just what will happen to our krovinochkami - children and grandchildren?
Would not they read Pushkin (Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekhov) with a dictionary, as we had read (and learn by heart) "Lay"?
Earlier in Russia spoke with accent. Almost all are literate and French owned. And many other languages. They were replaced by others - without the accent. Obydlyachili Russian language by itself. And these days are found. Literacy. Dictionaries multivolume afar. Large-scale circulations that have something to share with benefactors, unanimously adopted a vulgarization of our own national language.
Apparently, at the upper olden times there were problems.
 With literacy.
Carrying now out of fashion. In a fashion howling like a stepdaughter Sobchak.
Melodiousness of the Russian language as a cow licked.
Forever right?

No matter whether you, as they will speak and write in Russian in Your krovinochki, born and unborn to the light of God?

What should make the Russian intelligentsia, not to lose their native language?
Catch the mistakes of others or ourselves back to basics - to the great and mighty the Russian language?
At least in our forum.



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Старый 03.07.2010, 19:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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young presenters (as young kids, just get rid of the bar) and jump bleating something unintelligible. And, in between the scientific and popular practical transfers of "How to become a bandit, often interspersed interesting talk about breeding my lack of dandruff.
Of course, where the bandits knowledge of Russian. Position class ladies in areas not yet introduced and is unlikely to impose. And what you take from the foreign experts dandruff?
How do they know this and the Russian language?
Passion for English loans became a kind of fashion, it is due to created a youth society, stereotypes, ideals. This stereotype of our time is the image of an idealized (American, European, etc.) society, in which the standard of living is much higher, and the high rate of technical progress lead the entire world. And adding in his speech the English borrowing, young people in some way closer to the stereotype, are attached to a foreign culture, lifestyle. It is in this group there is a Russian, or simply a wrong interpretation of the English word. Sometimes the error becomes attractive to the point that has gripped the masses.
Reasons:
 1. The heart of this linguistic phenomenon - a departure from the routine, play, irony, a mask. Casual youth slang tends to withdraw from the dreary world of adults, parents and teachers.
2. Youth slang is like its users, he's sharp, loud, brash. It is the result of a peculiar desire to change everything in a world of manners, as well as the sign of "I own. Language here reflects the aspirations of the young domestic brighter and stronger than the clothes, hairstyles, lifestyles.
Youth slang easily absorbs words from different languages (from English - shoes, bags, Maine, Huer, from the German - Kopf, from the French - shersherit - look for it.) From the different dialects (berlyat, uhaydokat), from the criminal language (cool shakedown, lawlessness).
3. After 11 years of individual consciousness of the child grows into a more complex compound of centripetal and centrifugal tendencies. Begins to form an antagonistic consciousness - "be like everyone else" and corporate - to be like her. " It creates a specific vocabulary of teenagers tinov, namely, adolescent slang, common interests, territory, way of life. By the teenage slang and are punks, metal, hippies, with their peculiar lexicon - bizarre mix anglicized and thieves on the origin of the word: "ASKA" - ask, "Girl" - a girl, etc. etc.

A generation of young replaced after five - seven years, and with them is changing and slang. Nobody now remembers estimates "zingy, train - good or assessments such as" millet "- bad, so well distributed in 60 - 70 of the 20 - century.
New or old, slang remains with youth, as an island of naturalness and freedom from the old world of adults.



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Старый 03.07.2010, 19:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Старый 04.07.2010, 17:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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The text is good, but it seems that his age 30-40.
dedulya, I have not looked into the age of the text of the written, do not even know by whom, the abstract, so the link can not give a person because when you write too, not the thought of it, but the text is good, at least explains a lot.
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New or old, slang remains with youth, as an island of naturalness and freedom from the old world of adults.


I'm not the problems of transition.
And not about the practical application of the course in child psychology, but the plantation koverkanya Russian language at the top to our forum.
Many people over 40 and their slozhnovato attributed to youth. Even me.
Kids grow up some, but frazochki, even replaced by more relevant, remain
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To a greater extent of the problems I have, from time to time arise between the forum users.
Your opinion on this issue?
Or do you think a squabble in the "Margin" normal?
Here at the forum skirmish in the "margin", and in any other subject - is normal. The way it here - nothing but the reflection of the state of our society, the level of culture in it. Sometimes, some people dopekut so that not so much on the Great mighty tempting to send to distant lands, and to cap smack through the monitor.

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Vivien necessarily need to give ssydku authorship (otherwise it is plagiarism-)..
Yes, I am engaged in plagiarism, because the very lazy to write pages of text, I have better things to do, I'm a busy man, I have no time, but "ssydku" I can not give, do not have time to dig into the internet and look for a place where I found this text .




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Старый 04.07.2010, 22:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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dedulya, I have not looked into the age of the text of the written, do not even know by whom, the abstract, so the link can not give a person because when you write too, not the thought of it, but the text is good, at least much explains.

Kids grow up some, but frazochki, even replaced by more relevant, remain
Formerly known as such priblatnennymi. Not being thieves ispolzhovali their lingo (slang).
Here at the forum skirmish in the "margin", and in any other subject - is normal. The way it here - nothing but the reflection of the state of our society, the level of culture in it. Sometimes, some people dopekut so that not so much on the Great mighty tempting to send to distant lands, and to cap smack through the monitor.

Cultural skirmish, so to speak.
Well, culture, a pancake. That's pret.

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Yes, I am engaged in plagiarism, because the very lazy to write pages of text, I have better things to do, I'm a busy man, I have no time, but "ssydku" I can not give, do not have time to dig into the internet and look for a place where I found this text .
so proudly from Celestial - I am engaged in plagiarism.
And in his creative work, too?
Antiresny view. Not to add, not subtract.



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Yes, I am engaged in plagiarism, because the very lazy to write pages of text, I have better things to do, I'm a busy man, I have no time, but" ssydku "I can not give, do not have time to dig into the internet and find a place where I found this text.
Vivian, and plagiarism after stealing .. and matter for the courts (among others) did not know?
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vain catches young lady, among other things. Did not deserve the sarcasm.
Well, yes ... said proudly and publicly "I am a thief!"
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Antiresny view. Not to add, not subtract.
Yes!



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So proudly from Celestial - I am engaged in plagiarism.
And in his creative work, too?


In vain catches young lady, among other things. Did not deserve the sarcasm.
Dear dedulya, thanks for the support, but I catch an ordinary mortal is very difficult. You know me more there all curious, I have similar messages from them do not even read
"It's just a pathetic little bug on the windshield of my life"
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Vivien, and plagiarism after stealing .. and matter for the courts (among others) did not know?
Only limited in their mental faculties person is not clear that all the huge text in my post number 2 of this topic does not belong to me. There's even a link to give do not. And so everything is clear.



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