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Любознательный 03.07.2010 19:03

Great mighty
 
Recently, I began to listen to TV show "Fashion sentence.
That's right, not watch, and listen.
I just enjoy this Russian language from Alexander Vassiliev.
Of course, on television there are others: Wolf, Radzinsky, Posner, whose Russian language admired. But Vasilyev - from relatively young.
It so happened that the Russian language has become lost or, if it so desired, to become obstructed.
Young presenters (as young kids, just get rid of the bar) and jump bleating something unintelligible. And, in between the scientific and popular practical transfers of "How to become a bandit, often interspersed interesting talk about breeding my lack of dandruff.
Of course, where the bandits knowledge of Russian. Position class ladies in areas not yet introduced and is unlikely to impose. And what you take from the foreign experts dandruff?
Where and they know this Russian?

The tool of our communication (the Internet) is contaminated with Americanism, neologisms and acronyms. Nothing extraordinary - we will survive in these conditions and had not forgotten how to speak (write) in Russian, if, before they could.
Just what will happen to our krovinochkami - children and grandchildren?
Would not they read Pushkin (Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekhov) with a dictionary, as we had read (and learn by heart) "Lay"?
Earlier in Russia spoke with accent. Almost all are literate and French owned. And many other languages. They were replaced by others - without the accent. Obydlyachili Russian language by itself. And these days are found. Literacy. Dictionaries multivolume afar. Large-scale circulations that have something to share with benefactors, unanimously adopted a vulgarization of our own national language.
Apparently, at the upper olden times there were problems.
 With literacy.
Carrying now out of fashion. In a fashion howling like a stepdaughter Sobchak.
Melodiousness of the Russian language as a cow licked.
Forever right?

No matter whether you, as they will speak and write in Russian in Your krovinochki, born and unborn to the light of God?

What should make the Russian intelligentsia, not to lose their native language?
Catch the mistakes of others or ourselves back to basics - to the great and mighty the Russian language?
At least in our forum.

Вивьен 03.07.2010 19:16

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Сообщение от inquisitive (Сообщение 1173702)
young presenters (as young kids, just get rid of the bar) and jump bleating something unintelligible. And, in between the scientific and popular practical transfers of "How to become a bandit, often interspersed interesting talk about breeding my lack of dandruff.
Of course, where the bandits knowledge of Russian. Position class ladies in areas not yet introduced and is unlikely to impose. And what you take from the foreign experts dandruff?
How do they know this and the Russian language?

Passion for English loans became a kind of fashion, it is due to created a youth society, stereotypes, ideals. This stereotype of our time is the image of an idealized (American, European, etc.) society, in which the standard of living is much higher, and the high rate of technical progress lead the entire world. And adding in his speech the English borrowing, young people in some way closer to the stereotype, are attached to a foreign culture, lifestyle. It is in this group there is a Russian, or simply a wrong interpretation of the English word. Sometimes the error becomes attractive to the point that has gripped the masses.
Reasons:
 1. The heart of this linguistic phenomenon - a departure from the routine, play, irony, a mask. Casual youth slang tends to withdraw from the dreary world of adults, parents and teachers.
2. Youth slang is like its users, he's sharp, loud, brash. It is the result of a peculiar desire to change everything in a world of manners, as well as the sign of "I own. Language here reflects the aspirations of the young domestic brighter and stronger than the clothes, hairstyles, lifestyles.
Youth slang easily absorbs words from different languages (from English - shoes, bags, Maine, Huer, from the German - Kopf, from the French - shersherit - look for it.) From the different dialects (berlyat, uhaydokat), from the criminal language (cool shakedown, lawlessness).
3. After 11 years of individual consciousness of the child grows into a more complex compound of centripetal and centrifugal tendencies. Begins to form an antagonistic consciousness - "be like everyone else" and corporate - to be like her. " It creates a specific vocabulary of teenagers tinov, namely, adolescent slang, common interests, territory, way of life. By the teenage slang and are punks, metal, hippies, with their peculiar lexicon - bizarre mix anglicized and thieves on the origin of the word: "ASKA" - ask, "Girl" - a girl, etc. etc.

A generation of young replaced after five - seven years, and with them is changing and slang. Nobody now remembers estimates "zingy, train - good or assessments such as" millet "- bad, so well distributed in 60 - 70 of the 20 - century.
New or old, slang remains with youth, as an island of naturalness and freedom from the old world of adults.

dedulya37 03.07.2010 19:23


Игорь Гурьев 03.07.2010 19:24

Hebrew 80 percent consists of foreign loans, and nothing.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2010 19:27


Любознательный 03.07.2010 19:28

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1173742)
New or old, slang remains with youth, as an island of naturalness and freedom from the old world of adults.

I'm not the problems of transition.
And not about the practical application of the course in child psychology, but the plantation koverkanya Russian language at the top to our forum.
Many people over 40 and their slozhnovato attributed to youth. Even me.
I'm not saying that kvazisobchak already managed to forget, when she was a girl.
For the most part I of the problems from time to time arise between the forum users.
Your opinion on this issue?
Or do you think a squabble in the "Margin" normal?

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2010 19:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от "inquisitive, 1173791
I'm not the problems of the transition period.

But what?
Цитата:

Сообщение от inquisitive (Сообщение 1173702)
No matter whether you, as they will speak and write in Russian in Your krovinochki, born and unborn in the light of God?

As you like, as they will be comfortable, and will speak. We were not asked.

Цитата:

Сообщение от inquisitive (Сообщение 1173702)
What should make the Russian intelligentsia, not to lose their native language?

Russian intelligentsia did not lose their native language. The question is: will there be in buduyuschem "Russian intelligentsia"?
Цитата:

Сообщение от inquisitive (Сообщение 1173702)
catch the mistakes of others or themselves back to basics - to the great and mighty Russian language?

"The roots" is where? Where "source" something?

curious, some problems far-fetched, in my opinion.
How will speak?
 But what will and will ...

Peter 03.07.2010 19:41

Are changing generation-changing slang. "Hey dude, your chicks again yesterday Namahana!" This no longer hear, but all the songs on stage now, with some oriental obertonami.Ot what?? I think the culture, including language subject to influences from other cultures, especially in multinational obrazovaniyah.Amerikansky is not English and Shakespeare Bayrona.S whom we live, and talking (Bazar ):)

Игорь Гурьев 03.07.2010 19:46

In my opinion, the Russian language is just fabulous blossomed in the last 20 years.

Natalia Trauberg 10 years ago, said that out of nowhere, after the fall of Soviet power, come from many thousands of young people, well writing in Russian.

Take any specialized journal (I come across avtozhurnaly) very often and very many articles written by rich, expressive Russian.

Peter 03.07.2010 19:49



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