Interiors for the elite

[gans]

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       Perhaps they are right who believe that modern art and architecture are not experiencing a crisis and the rise and in society is simply no need for the appearance of the "vanguard" and "new wave", but there is some workflow where the alleged 50 - 80 years ago ideas and concepts evolve and adapt to modern conditions.

But suppose that there is a customer, for which the financial side of the issue is of secondary importance, and is the most important development of its own habitat.
At the same time - to create an environment based on personal taste, the customer can not, and forced to turn to experts in this matter, which is quite reasonable and even the only reasonable.
That should end up in the end, is for him not so much a matter of comfort, as a matter of positioning itself as the representative of the social elite, or more modestly - the representative of the financial elite.

    

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the very least, but the issue of comfort living environment is not long enough - you have to be completely insane to contrive, in today's highly competitive market professionals to find one that will make uncomfortable, ugly and not comfortable, but anything can happen to be honest.

So, you can, with absolute probability, assume that such customer will be offered only two organic options to solve their problems - "Modern" and "neoclassical" and this is a contradiction to frequent statements about the diversity of contemporary art and the existence of supposedly multiple vectors of its development.

       Moreover, the probability that eventually the customer will receive "The neoclassical interior" - is negligible, because almost all the offers on the market today is based on service first, the simplest and most affordable option - "Contemporary".

       How it will look like - some obvious way or another, it will be a kind of constructivism, minimalism and functionalism and no superimposed on these concepts, masking the true meaning and content of ideas, such as high-TEK, deconstruction, organi-tech, eco-tech, low -tech ... etc.., etc.. - Change nothing.

In the end the customer gets something quite recognizable and widespread, like this here http://images.google.ru/images?gbv=2...= f & oq = in volume, this http://images.google.ru/images?hl=ru...& tab = wi in the interior, and this http://images.google.ru/images?gbv=2...= f & oq = in details (if he is lucky and will look externally, as "machine for living", but it will (again, if you're lucky) - actually quite convenient and comfortable accommodation.

The second option - "neoclassical" - is unlikely for several reasons.

    1. First - this option is more expensive;
    2. Secondly - professionals able to competently carry out such an option - unit;
    3. Thirdly - this version is much more expensive and a good specialist will not find

However, the problem of positioning is not something irrelevant in the modern world, and today almost everyone faced the same problem at their level and everyone one way or another, it is necessary to make any expenditure, in order to "match" the images and stylistic trends of social layer to which the person considered himself a member.

       From all this it necessarily follows that the modern elite positioning options than the "neoclassical" simply does not exist, and speed - with which the elites to this option will come - depends solely on two factors - the willingness of elites to spend on their positioning more financial resources and and quality of proposals (including specialists) in the market.

Then it's time to return to the concepts of "vanguard" and "new wave" and if you look at the issue at an angle of historicism, it turns out that the avant-garde and new wave is not modern terms, but something always existed and has always been associated with the concepts of "financial and intellectual elite, moreover, the most amusing that most often it was the neo-classical, although called by many names

       However, apart from confusion in terminology and definitions, there are incidental obstacles hampering the possibility of "neoclassical" option - lack of information field and a layer of conducting such information.
       While the situation in this sense is changing rapidly - at exhibitions, in magazines and online, is still extraordinarily difficult to find examples of modern "neoclassicism" in architecture, interior design and painting, so the gap that has always wanted to fill.

Recently, on this occasion, there was another dispute between the architects involved in interior, and promised to show them some interesting examples of modern "neo-classical in the interior of" what to do, without going into detailed analysis, comparison and description of methods, I think - more important to see once than hear a hundred times, and every man can understand without any commentary, that's what, especially among the pros.

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[K-Maler]

Сообщение от gans

, suited, correct those who believe that modern art and architecture are not experiencing a crisis and the rise and in society is simply no need for the appearance of the "vanguard" and "new wave", but there is a certain workflow when the alleged 50 - 80 years ago, the ideas and concepts evolve and adapt to modern conditions.

Yes, it seems to me particularly curious fact that while "in a loud voice" welcome to the pointlessness of art, then, when it comes to individual order, provided that continuity and consistency of development "of all flavors, and contemporary designers are not quite ready for this - can not offer anything other than blatant secondary, even if skillfully executed. By the way, the artists themselves understand this and so for this and relate. In this was some "dissociation" of culture, the consequences of "vanguard" and external causes, war, etc.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от K-Maler

"out loud" welcome the pointlessness of art, then, when it comes to personal order

In Russia, it is important to not only the most liked, but to youngsters understand it. In order to evaluate the level of luxury, and not ask stupid questions. Shob palace. And that reminds the interiors for shooting "adult" movies - so it does not matter

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Сообщение от Vladimir

not only very pleased but also that the youngsters understand it.

Well, that's you in vain, in my opinion. Those times are long gone, I think. No?

[gans]

Сообщение от Tit

Well, that's you in vain, in my opinion. Those times are long gone, I think. No?

Changing shape, that's for sure, but the principle remains.

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Maybe I do not know.
I vsilu neighborhood alone "kid" is close I know. He drove all designers, all he builds. Home enormous, marble everywhere, of course, malachite and all that, but the soul and a sense of proportion is in the interior of a surprise.

[Romario]

Сообщение от Tit

Maybe I do not know.
I vsilu neighborhood alone "kid" is close I know. He drove all designers, all he builds. Home enormous, marble everywhere, of course, malachite and all that, but the soul and a sense of proportion is in the interior of surprise.

That's all it is. Anti-Semitism "and not only become more thoughtful and he was curious to learn what is around them, and became interested in studying at a fairly serious level, and some have to understand the interior much steeper than many designers and so on. - Aleksandr Vassiliev he knows it is not by hearsay. I very much notice the displacement of interest in the formation of interiors in a more intelligent direction, for example, from the Baroque to Empire or Art Deco. So much for the styles, but there is, of course, and the growth of the general cultural level out of style. In particular, in Moscow this notice. In St. Petersburg with the interior all was always much better, because the material has always been a little more (furniture, interior) and the same general cultural level higher.

PS The fellow is not from Elias chance? if so, what countryman me and you - the neighbor

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Сообщение от gans

changes shape, it is exactly, but the principle remains.

The principle remains? ... I personally know a few oligarchs who had bought everything on the principle that Bahati, and now they will handicap in this forum many users of knowledge in almost any field, and even the experts. Paradoxically, and very pleased with the fact that rich people have the opportunity to buy almost any thing began to study these areas are very deep to understand what they have on the walls and in rooms. And such people are not enough. Someone earlier, and someone later. For example, take the same Arkady Gaydamak, who started as a wealthy banker, then bought a pair of Empire style of things, but eventually got so carried away that gathered the best collection of Empire style in Russia and has written an excellent book "The Russian Empire", which I think the best book which was published in this area. Changes the principle, it is changing.

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Сообщение от Romario

At Peters with all the interiors were always much better, because the material has always been a little more (furniture, interior) and the same the general level of cultural taller.

Identified questionable in my opinion.
From this view: "higher" levels of cultural versus dveh our capitals?
Not clarify their own thought?
I now razobratsya in this long wanted.

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Сообщение от Romario

I personally know a few oligarchs who had bought everything on the principle that Bahati, and now they will handicap in this forum many users of knowledge in almost any field, and even the experts.

Also know of.

[Romario]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Select questionable in my opinion.
From this view: "higher" in comparison of our two levels of cultural capital?
Not clarify their own thought?
I now razobratsya in this long wanted.

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Also I know of.

In the context of my example, I would say that in St. Pete I think people who are in varying degrees, belong to the sphere of culture and art, more thoughtful and detailed than in Moscow. Also at the regional level is much better in this respect than in Moscow. In Moscow, frequently all happens - a sword unsheathed this from my experience of communicating with people.

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Сообщение от Romario

In Moscow often it happens - a sword unsheathed

Agree, in Moscow, all done quickly, but it is forced, such a city, you will slowly walk, think, speak, do not have time for the day. And in life.
But for cases that's good. Yes, yes, no, no and ran away ...

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Сообщение от Romario

Likewise in all the regions is much better in this respect

From the vednee, perhaps, but then somehow ... do not know ...

Сообщение от Romario

in St. Petersburg in my opinion people who are in varying degrees belong to the sphere of culture and art, more thoughtful and detailed,

I do not know, I do not know ...