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gans 26.06.2009 13:54

Interiors for the elite
 
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       Perhaps they are right who believe that modern art and architecture are not experiencing a crisis and the rise and in society is simply no need for the appearance of the "vanguard" and "new wave", but there is some workflow where the alleged 50 - 80 years ago ideas and concepts evolve and adapt to modern conditions.

But suppose that there is a customer, for which the financial side of the issue is of secondary importance, and is the most important development of its own habitat.
At the same time - to create an environment based on personal taste, the customer can not, and forced to turn to experts in this matter, which is quite reasonable and even the only reasonable.
That should end up in the end, is for him not so much a matter of comfort, as a matter of positioning itself as the representative of the social elite, or more modestly - the representative of the financial elite.

    
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the very least, but the issue of comfort living environment is not long enough - you have to be completely insane to contrive, in today's highly competitive market professionals to find one that will make uncomfortable, ugly and not comfortable, but anything can happen to be honest.

So, you can, with absolute probability, assume that such customer will be offered only two organic options to solve their problems - "Modern" and "neoclassical" and this is a contradiction to frequent statements about the diversity of contemporary art and the existence of supposedly multiple vectors of its development.

       Moreover, the probability that eventually the customer will receive "The neoclassical interior" - is negligible, because almost all the offers on the market today is based on service first, the simplest and most affordable option - "Contemporary".

       How it will look like - some obvious way or another, it will be a kind of constructivism, minimalism and functionalism and no superimposed on these concepts, masking the true meaning and content of ideas, such as high-TEK, deconstruction, organi-tech, eco-tech, low -tech ... etc.., etc.. - Change nothing.

In the end the customer gets something quite recognizable and widespread, like this here http://images.google.ru/images?gbv=2...= f & oq = in volume, this http://images.google.ru/images?hl=ru...& tab = wi in the interior, and this http://images.google.ru/images?gbv=2...= f & oq = in details (if he is lucky:) and will look externally, as "machine for living", but it will (again, if you're lucky) - actually quite convenient and comfortable accommodation.

The second option - "neoclassical" - is unlikely for several reasons.

    1. First - this option is more expensive;
    2. Secondly - professionals able to competently carry out such an option - unit;
    3. Thirdly - this version is much more expensive and a good specialist will not find:)

However, the problem of positioning is not something irrelevant in the modern world, and today almost everyone faced the same problem at their level and everyone one way or another, it is necessary to make any expenditure, in order to "match" the images and stylistic trends of social layer to which the person considered himself a member.

       From all this it necessarily follows that the modern elite positioning options than the "neoclassical" simply does not exist, and speed - with which the elites to this option will come - depends solely on two factors - the willingness of elites to spend on their positioning more financial resources and and quality of proposals (including specialists) in the market.

Then it's time to return to the concepts of "vanguard" and "new wave" and if you look at the issue at an angle of historicism, it turns out that the avant-garde and new wave is not modern terms, but something always existed and has always been associated with the concepts of "financial and intellectual elite, moreover, the most amusing that most often it was the neo-classical, although called by many names:)

       However, apart from confusion in terminology and definitions, there are incidental obstacles hampering the possibility of "neoclassical" option - lack of information field and a layer of conducting such information.
       While the situation in this sense is changing rapidly - at exhibitions, in magazines and online, is still extraordinarily difficult to find examples of modern "neoclassicism" in architecture, interior design and painting, so the gap that has always wanted to fill.

Recently, on this occasion, there was another dispute between the architects involved in interior, and promised to show them some interesting examples of modern "neo-classical in the interior of" what to do, without going into detailed analysis, comparison and description of methods, I think - more important to see once than hear a hundred times, and every man can understand without any commentary, that's what, especially among the pros.

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K-Maler 26.06.2009 14:59

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 446346)
, suited, correct those who believe that modern art and architecture are not experiencing a crisis and the rise and in society is simply no need for the appearance of the "vanguard" and "new wave", but there is a certain workflow when the alleged 50 - 80 years ago, the ideas and concepts evolve and adapt to modern conditions.

Yes, it seems to me particularly curious fact that while "in a loud voice" welcome to the pointlessness of art, then, when it comes to individual order, provided that continuity and consistency of development "of all flavors, and contemporary designers are not quite ready for this - can not offer anything other than blatant secondary, even if skillfully executed. By the way, the artists themselves understand this and so for this and relate. In this was some "dissociation" of culture, the consequences of "vanguard" and external causes, war, etc.

Vladimir 26.06.2009 15:09

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 446416)
"out loud" welcome the pointlessness of art, then, when it comes to personal order

In Russia, it is important to not only the most liked, but to youngsters understand it. In order to evaluate the level of luxury, and not ask stupid questions. Shob palace. And that reminds the interiors for shooting "adult" movies - so it does not matter:)

Синица 27.06.2009 00:01

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 446446)
not only very pleased but also that the youngsters understand it.

Well, that's you in vain, in my opinion. Those times are long gone, I think. No?

gans 27.06.2009 00:32

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Сообщение от Tit (Сообщение 446816)
Well, that's you in vain, in my opinion. Those times are long gone, I think. No?

Changing shape, that's for sure, but the principle remains.

Синица 27.06.2009 01:11

Maybe I do not know.
I vsilu neighborhood alone "kid" is close I know. He drove all designers, all he builds. Home enormous, marble everywhere, of course, malachite and all that, but the soul and a sense of proportion is in the interior of a surprise.

БОМЖ 27.06.2009 15:30

gans, but where are the modern version of it ??????????????

gans 27.06.2009 15:39

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Сообщение от TRACE (Сообщение 447066)
gans, but where are the modern version of it ??????????????

The modern version of what? If the examples of modern "neo-classicism in the interior", they follow the link. I thought everything was clear.

БОМЖ 27.06.2009 15:45

I mean kantemparory art

gans 27.06.2009 15:55

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Сообщение от TRACE (Сообщение 447116)
I mean kantemparory art

If you have a view of examples of interiors in the "modern" style, they also have designs on the links in the text.


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