Approximate cost of restoration work in Russia?

[sportsmen]

How much is the estimated cost of restoration work by a specialist based on the state of the canvas 70 x 100:

- Loss of paint layer
- Damage to the paint layer
- Peeling paint on the ground
- Paint peeling from the base
- talus
- craquelure
- Cracks on canvas
- Torn canvas
- Tears on the canvas ( breaks , voids, and burn marks )
- Darkening the background

I understand that without a visual inspection to assess the restoration work is extremely difficult. Just want to know about how much to rely ?

[olnev]

4 sportsmen

Sorry, but read this:
How much does a green car , the size - sedan :
- 4 -wheel drive
- steering wheel
- The reserve is
- Radio antenna



Well, you get ... >


In the case. The fact that you listed , I used to call a complete cycle of works. That's about 1.5 months of work minimum, including drying. A good specialist receives 50 thousand rubles per month , an amendment to the drying , the cost of 25 to 60 thousand, plus materials (paints, stretcher work , new subframe , good canvas dublirovlochny know how much it costs ? , Chemicals , paints and etc. , etc.) . Plus workshop (rent, security (!!!!), other staff ), plus warranty , plus the reputation of the shop. Total from 15-20 to 60-100 thousand.


The spread is huge. But the problem about the car perfectly shows why such a spread.

[олег назаров]

Сообщение от olnev

Total from 15-20 to 60-100 thousand rubles.

Absolutely!

[sportsmen]

The question was raised purely because of curiosity . I hear from more than three different people who recommend to do the restoration in Europe than in Russia. Like, supposedly , were doing without quirks , ambitions, public deception, assigning yourself hundreds of hours of extra work and other not pleasant things. And the price and quality
 will definitely be in the direction of Europe.

[Тихая Сапа]

For the restorers would not say . But my brother , traveled around the world argues that the mechanic and the workers make a fool of customers everywhere in the same way , winning all ethnic and racial differences ... Parallel so-so, but logic dictates that a big difference should not be. While it may have been someone already experienced?

[sportsmen]

Silent Sapa,


Cheat anywhere.
Only in our country is built up of the 10 Commandments, which sounds naiperveyshaya: «Nae ... and your neighbor» .
And this holy precepts of absolutely everything - from the janitor to the president.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Toinen; 1706671"

bringing the painting to restorer, representing an approximate amount of work

If you know a topic , you know the amount of work and prices , then what can I say ?
And if you do not know? The same speech.
I've been asked a search in Google and immediately got on the site restorers did not go , but the impression is positive. There's a forum with the work and reports have the ratings of restorers.
That's if absolutely no one recommendation will not help.

[Виктория Ступина]

Much depends on who serves the customer. The human factor still has not been canceled . If the professional market participant , the price may be lower. If you go " head- in " from the street - may not be pleasant surprises , which are new , however, did not even know overpaying unspecified amount of money.

[Santa]

Сообщение от Toinen; 1706721"

best restorers and School Restoration in Russia ,

In the West appreciate the restorers of Russia (meaning museum conservators , and not everyone who reckons himself to this numerically small community ).
According to the present , good restorers, very little , they're all on the enumeration .
And in any ratings on the forums nor need - for the most overworked .... >, they have no time to hang out on forums .
Restoration in Europe - is much more expensive , than in Russia ... at times.

[olnev]

Сообщение от Santa

Restoration in Europe - is much more expensive , than in Russia at times ....

On the other I will not argue, it's all very subjective. Personally, I do not believe in these fairy tales about good restorers busy as I've seen enough of any (self hereditary), should not one size fits ... There are inept restorers on large sites by crew, and there are very talented but did not know how to sell yourself and communicate. All there is.
And these words about "more Europe" than you ever can prove anything?
I can name at least two major arguments against it. First, some restoration centers overfed state where the work of tenders in the picture as described by the author can be evaluated in the 250-500 thousand and even millions. Cost while still in the band that I have at the beginning of the discussion. Go to http://www.gz-spb.ru or http://www.sberbank-ast.ru (in the public domain, not all can be found, but the presentation on the market you can get). I though all have a license, without nepotism win nizya (walking, licking at these numbers: eek >, but that is the subject of another discussion. I refer to the state prices, it's not the whole market, but many just on it and live.
Second, in Russia is much lower than the world GDP and significantly inflated salaries. In other words, we have car mechanic, a programmer, restorer or decorator earn statistically more than the world average (working less time, less effective). Source Federal State Statistics Service.
In fairness, noting that the restoration of the correct order in Russia, our conservators. The question is not in price. Justification, one language, one tradition, especially with the amendment to the "Russian" understanding of how to restore, for example, icons, no barriers to movement and problems with customs. And so on. As for the mythical difference in price, here are easy to market mechanisms, when such a price difference is substantial, the market will begin to flow in a region where costs are lower. So it is, and will, no matter what to talk about potatoes, cocaine or restorations.

Сообщение от Santa

By the way, paying by the hour - this is the "notion" of the West ..
There pay is calculated on the clock ... and the amount of restoring the picture - is large enough.

What do you somehow contradicting yourself. Who invented it does not matter. But we have now and into the USSR, the cost of restoration of hours and calculated (measurement area of ​​damage is multiplied by the difficulty level and type of work hours), for example, the specification for the restoration of furniture was the last in 1984, then in 1999 and more (can not remember the year) with revisions. So we are still working on 1984, only on the coefficients. So the argument about the watch does not prove anything.

Сообщение от Santa

Museum restorer of Russia, which works only on the state (without special orders) - was doomed to a miserable existence, and death by starvation (without irony) >

  > > > > > Now pay from the state to the restorer goes through several layers, each selected by about 50%. If they were not so much that the restorers went to business class on the cars, and drive their cars quite decent ... And the first layer, oh how trite - rollback officials. The second and the rest - poluchinovnichi strutktury who spend all of the general contractor to subcontract. I had an order that I got from one of Novgorod, which she passed on a subcontract SSF, which gave the FSB the subcontract. > All members of the chain including the last two have a license for restoration. There are a few restorers blankly at the salary, but it's rudimentary market sector, not describing the situation. Those who are talented or a pain in the Well - quite find a good booking and payment.
In general, I would not say that the restorers have nothing to eat. The fact that the market "due to" over-regulation (mostly mediocre licensing policy) runs through one place, it is a fact, but the restorers did not die of starvation. Well trust me to work through unpleasant, but such is the policy of the state and government. I see that the power above all bodies responsible for issues of restoration, not interested in a balanced market transparency. And it is clearly seen in politics in recent years. They did not care about salary, work quality, warranty. Although formally all the "cool": that any month with a new pump gives up a large object. Who drank there money, what quality of work - all on ^(*%$.

For reference.
Average cost of restoration of the facade on Peter - 4.5-10 million actual cost (the cost of materials and the final RFP Executive) 0.3-1.2 million According to my calculations in St. Petersburg on a facade has five levels of customers at each stage minus 50%.
Average cost of restoring the picture as the author of threads 25-60 in St. Petersburg and in Moscow, 35-80. This is a private conservator or small workshop. Moreover, if the order comes from the state the cost of outsourcing - by 1 order of magnitude higher. That is an average of nulik should be added.