question: What are the feelings you felt at that moment, when the president of Arts Zurab Tsereteli put on your toga academician?
Reply:
Recognition homeland terribly pleasant. And the fact that he wore toga Zurab, doubly pleased. He is head of the academy, and I to him is always a positive attitude.
in: Of course, this event: the leaders of non-conformists, persecuted under the Soviet regime, suddenly joined the ranks of the classics of domestic art.
A: First of all - not suddenly. We have been working for more than half a century. Soviet power, of course, we did not like. But today times have changed. And I said during the ceremony: "let bygones be bygones."
in: In short, the Academy rewarded you deserved.
about
: I was very surprised that Tsereteli, and especially Vice-President of Tair Salakhov almost tearfully confessed more than talking about our merit. Yes, we were persecuted, not recognized, but no sense of revenge I do not.
in: "Of the non-conformists - in conformist" - snapped some of the critics about your admission to the Academy of Arts. Power, they say, petted former dissidents.
about
: Power petted, and thank God that now in Russia a normal life.
in: You have recently awarded the Order of Friendship ...
about
: It is a pity that not awarded the other nonconformists. But most of all I am touched that I was made an honorary citizen Tarusa. I was a little public-spirited, and I can help with these regalia of the city and to intercede for the persecuted people.
Q: And how are you doing this?
about
: Helping the hospital, church. I gave at a charity auction of his work, which was sold for 15 thousand euros, and gave the money the hospital. I have two homes in Tarusa, one of which I want to do fund families Steinberg (artist's father - a famous poet and translator Arkady Steinberg. - "The News") and convey to the city.
To: You say that you help the persecuted. Now is there were persecuted?
about
: And how! I helped to achieve justice in the scandalous history, made a splash with a hospital in Tarusa. Started a good thing, bought equipment and began a persecution of officials of the chief doctor ... I wrote a letter and the local authorities in respect of a disabled woman who lives in a ten-room with his daughter. They do not even water. It is also driven.
in: So you're in Tarusa play the role of defender?
A: Yes. All resentful of authority can be knocking on my door, and I will help than I can.
Q: Why are you so attached to Tarusa?
about
: I was brought there in months of age. I've become an artist. Tarusa was famous even before the revolution - here lived Baltrushaitis, Polenov, Borisov-Musatov, came Balmont, Andrei Bely, Tsvetaeva. And in Soviet times - Richter, Paustovsky, Tarkovsky, Messerer. In Tarusa visited and Solzhenitsyn.
in: Earlier you mostly lived in Paris, and now you, you say, "pulls in its kennel."
A: I had cancer twice - in Paris, I was treated ... Of course, I'm from France pulls in Tarusa. While the friends I have now more in Paris. I still find myself in the French art space, and Paris - my second homeland.
In: The supreme art of the French consider "art de vivre.
A: Yes, they are able to live and live for today. So it should be done. But the main thing that people are protected by law. To you and will not approach the police for no reason at all will not let the face. At us in Russia so far in this regard, the absolute powerlessness.
in: You often call themselves rooted in the soil. What does this mean?
about
: natives - is one who walks the earth, not divorced from it. I love my geography, and accuse me that I was "nationalist", "patriot".
But I really love Russia. What's wrong?
Q: Where can you better understand how the artist - in the West or in Russia?
about
: me, in my view, appreciate, and there, and there. But, of course, an elite circle. I am part of the Russian-European culture.
My idol - Kazimir Malevich. It is more visionary than artist.
Q: In your abstract painting many religious symbols.
about
: I'm a believer, and I have all built on Christian philosophy.
in: Today, prices for paintings of artists of your generation have reached staggering heights at auction. Kabakov spent several million dollars. Drew themselves up to one million milestone Krasnopevtsev, Bulatov, Vasiliev ... Do they really worth all that money?
about
: One dress, so worth it.
In this regard, you can laugh, you can applaud. But I'm skeptical. I am a little familiar with the situation on the art market. In Western art such prices do not.
in: Some experts predict Russia's art market inevitable collapse. Others, however, are convinced that at current oil prices will rise and prices of art.
on:
My prediction is reduced to the fact that this market is bound to collapse. from contemporary artists remain two or three: Kabakov, Weisberg, Krasnopevtsev.
When will incur to sell the rest, their pictures will be worth two pennies.
Q: In "Grand Palais" just passed Salon "Art Paris", widely open the doors for Russia's art. George Ostrecov showed sculpture - a sort of human-machine, copulating with a refrigerator. Our other artist captured on canvas Chinese, Russian raping the girl. Maybe the rights of ex-Minister of Culture Sokolov, who called such creations pornography?
A: This is a monstrous banality. And Sokolova, who was brought up in this culture - this, of course, pornography. But the ban is not necessary. Any ban is a backlash.
in: Artists for the needs full freedom of expression?
about
: Picasso said that art in general, freedom is not needed.
He said that art is born when there is no freedom and complete freedom when it dies. kill him and money.
To: You claim that the artist creates for himself. But Rubens and Rembrandt worked to order.
about
: Their customers had other - at the level of the artist. And then order the order, but they wrote for themselves, thinking about God, about death, about life.
in: Familiar art dealer recently complained that the demand for contemporary Russian art is growing, but the "quality product", they say, is not enough.
about
: The territory seized gentlemen curators and art dealers. Solid-commerce.
Today, some curator at the Venice Biennale is nonsense, and thinks that the terms of idiots. King, long ago, naked, but everyone is silent, afraid to look stupid.
in: Meeting of the Tretyakov Gallery reflects the situation in the contemporary domestic art?
A: In some extent, yes. Although the exposure for some reason now, no such remarkable artists as Sveshnikov or Kharitonov. But still, my generation is mainly represented.
And I like that there is and avant-garde and Socialist Realism. So it should be - this is our story.
Q: In an elite list of Russians, published in the press were just two artists - Ilya Glazunov and Nikas Safronov. Both occupy the 104-th position.
about
: 104-place is not so bad. Hence, they are still thinking. And Glazunov, like him or not, - a phenomenon. Poor, but a phenomenon.
in: Today, the most advanced Russian art in no way inferior in courage to the west.
about
: Our art is very provincial. We still have to reinvent the wheel, which in the West have been using for half a century.
in: Well, how dear one a social art, which has been raised to the skies in the West?
about
: Art in Russia is highly politicized. Sots Art - pure politics, painted by Russian geography.
the Council of Deputies upon a time there. How much can you talk about it! I'm not interested in kissing policemen.
Q: Is there a modern art sort of mission, but shocking?
on:
Zamorochit head. Pretty cheap. Sell. This is theater of the absurd. As one Frenchman said: "What is fashionable, it is art".
In: Met thou among today's collectors of new Tretyakov, Shchukin and Morozov?
A: No. It all collectors ... money, unfortunately.
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