Modern Painting and the problem of attribution of paintings - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Yurko · 20-06-2010, 11:31

Recently (on 40godov the last century to the present) in the history of painting was put enormous amount of material extracted with the help of stylistic kritiki.Zhivopisi so many that do not neatly ask what is notable for one or other manner of images, what is the originality of a style ( After all, look at the picture completely elementarnuyu .. and she is considered a masterpiece, not it possible that just because the artist decided to put the first such product
on display? a picture that looks completely drawn by a child with no talent .. best describes "as an artist (who in real images has never tried to draw something) - such a genius ... so I decided to engage the subject in which I hope to enlighten me the best minds gathered here on the forum.
WHY A BAD Draw Considered masterpiece?
Sincerely Yurko .

gans · 20-06-2010, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Yurko

Why Draw A BAD Considered MASTERPIECES?

In the evaluation of works of art, regardless of the style and direction, the main criterion is talent.

For people immersed in the art, talent is absolutely objective and understandable at a glance the quality, this is the criterion by which to determine the "present-not present", and after that go all the other estimates. A poorly drawn and considered a masterpiece "-there is no such.

Posav · 20-06-2010, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Yurko

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WHY A BAD Draw Considered masterpiece?
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And the examples can show that you have in mind? Sometimes carelessly but deliberately drawn professionally, and looks to the layman as bad painting and etc. ..

Yurko · 20-06-2010, 12:24

"... In the fine arts events surrounding the life otobrazhayutsya with lines, tonal relationships, color combinations, three-dimensional shapes, vibrant rhythms. Art is divided into separate types, each of which has its own Special arrangements language ..." Visual Arts 5-6 klass.vstuplenie.M.G.Deyneko, VY Yelin, G. Korobov 1981
"Radyanska School

"what we have learned a long time ... a wide brush to paint a large canvas divorce .. and realism genre, specifically where every detail is drawn from ... for example .. why divorces where no paint and a hint of color harmony .. stands in the ratings in the first place .. not uzhto realistic art has lost its relevance ?

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Well, that's more like ..?

Yurko · 20-06-2010, 12:31

Well, that's more like ..?

Posav · 20-06-2010, 12:42

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.. Not uzhto realistic art has lost its relevance ?

Just a good copy of nature (nature) and the repetition is not listed. In our dynamic world, the more valuable the original idea. Sometimes with a few abstract divorce paint expresses some concept. This is how scientists invent semiconductors, lasers, etc. .. It's like in science first appear ideas, discoveries, concepts. Say so. Someone knows how to masterfully weave baskets of twigs, but it's yesterday.

Yurko · 20-06-2010, 12:56

Hence the conclusion: the modern artist who draws from Balde (by Alexander Pushkin), depict the reality can not .. but such a concept, that any who can hold a pencil in his hand is able to create masterpieces? Or not just a pencil?
Admiration for the expression of thoughts and feelings

NATA NOVA · 20-06-2010, 13:04

Yurko, this much has been written (sang, said. Cursing, whispering) .. that even the already awkward ..
Look at this (I hope he becomes a little clearer):
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...B8%D0%B7%D0%BC
R "orthodox realism or the ability to write, draw"

Yurko · 20-06-2010, 13:09

I'm talking about fundamental attribution of Modern Art would like to know that the most attractive (realism or simulation, or a picture ekskrementalnoy theme?)

NATA NOVA · 20-06-2010, 13:20

Select the last (and can not go wrong) ..

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This is the main direction of modern action Islands (experimental ekskrementalnoe)

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Yurko Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Україна Posts: 241 Thanks: 959 Thanked 189 Times in 92 Posts Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 380	Modern Painting and the problem of attribution of paintings Recently (on 40godov the last century to the present) in the history of painting was put enormous amount of material extracted with the help of stylistic kritiki.Zhivopisi so many that do not neatly ask what is notable for one or other manner of images, what is the originality of a style ( After all, look at the picture completely elementarnuyu .. and she is considered a masterpiece, not it possible that just because the artist decided to put the first such product on display? a picture that looks completely drawn by a child with no talent .. best describes "as an artist (who in real images has never tried to draw something) - such a genius ... so I decided to engage the subject in which I hope to enlighten me the best minds gathered here on the forum. WHY A BAD Draw Considered masterpiece? Sincerely Yurko <!--~ a ~-->.

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Yurko Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Україна Posts: 241 Thanks: 959 Thanked 189 Times in 92 Posts Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 380	Hence the conclusion: the modern artist who draws from Balde (by Alexander Pushkin), depict the reality can not .. but such a concept, that any who can hold a pencil in his hand is able to create masterpieces? Or not just a pencil? Admiration for the expression of thoughts and feelings

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NATA NOVA Гуру Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,736 Thanks: 8,058 Thanked 4,382 Times in 2,259 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 8507	Yurko, this much has been written (sang, said. Cursing, whispering) .. that even the already awkward .. Look at this (I hope he becomes a little clearer): http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...B8%D0%B7%D0%BC R "orthodox realism or the ability to write, draw"

20-06-2010, 13:09	Original language: Russian #9
Yurko Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Україна Posts: 241 Thanks: 959 Thanked 189 Times in 92 Posts Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 380	I'm talking about fundamental attribution of Modern Art would like to know that the most attractive (realism or simulation, or a picture ekskrementalnoy theme?)