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Старый 08.09.2010, 05:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Down with the creative

Lady Tar · 25/08/2010

Give me a mass culture and do not meddle in my territory, requires CATHERINE tar

 Summer, relaxation, and many allow themselves too much. I've allowed myself to read the foreign detective novel. The plot was promising: found the body of the child, exactly the same place twenty years ago, missing children under mysterious circumstances, a police inspector when he lost his memory. Read!

Written all very beautiful, arty. At the end of me, however, were disappointed: the killer found, but that story is everything, it turns out, was not relevant, the inspector memory and not recovered, the old mystery remained unsolved. Phew.

The author, apparently, had the audacity to imagine that his book will be read not for the finals, but for the beauty of the style and subtlety of observation of human psychology. This, I must say, is a common misconception. More precisely, really: this has increased the audience, which considers the book by Dostoyevsky, though light, and in the same curly style would write her a review in LJ, then would feel too creative author.
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Creativity - is, of course, the main evil of our time. A bad mass culture with a claim for alleged intellectual, which replaces the one and the other: an uncomfortable bed dizaynirovannaya classifies the owner of the clan of avant-garde artists - but it is convenient, and you can not buy. And what avant-garde art does not have a bed, even if design does not prove.

Osip Brik once rightly wrote that the people of mental work will not be after a hard day at work to read fiction with the subtle psychological moves they need in a good detective novel function for the diversion drain.

Give me a mass culture, dammit! Spare me from the one that mimics a supposedly high. Do not meddle in my territory.

I still occasionally read the magazine on cooking, published an incredibly creative publishing house. I must say, their creativity, I get sick so much that I even armed with white stucco and some phrases, do not be surprised that covers. The fact that this magazine because it's still concrete recipes, sometimes re-read several times, but this is unbearable, you could die of shame, not having started yet either shred or smothering. For example, instead write "Put lettuce in a bowl," the author wrote something like "arrange salad leaves such a nest, where I would like to live forever, but can not, but very much want.

Generally, such nervousness, when the hand reaches for the putty, lately - I am not the one. Familiar book designer, the talented quiet man, violently detaching the cover of the books given him. Musician imposes irritated veto "melodic" phone calls at all familiar. Architect specially made hook, just would not go past a particular creative shopping center in the modernist style. Meanwhile, some samopostroennye dachas, frank musical or pop cover of the magazine "Liza" not only does not cause us all asthmatic shock, but even like. Refreshes, you know, against the background of general refinement and total design.

I meanwhile, all the time thinking about this author, who wanted to remain in a heap of salad and who still, reveling in your own research, calls the onion and ginger "grasses". What kind of person who writes like that? With his head?

He wants to sit on two chairs. He imagines himself the creator and writer, while continuing to remain banal consumer, and with his last strength poeticises and valoriziruet is consumption, whether it be food, travel or going to the movies. In Russia all this is compounded by the protracted neofitstvom: all of our so-called culture in recent years, including a publicized of writers and certainly most shows (especially arranged spin-doctors by profession and vocation) - this is ecstasy "great grub," which calls itself an aggressive high honors culture.

You know what? Detective novels, first learn to write.

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Старый 08.09.2010, 09:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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valoriziruet this consumption
"Valorizirovat" - this is where?



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Старый 08.09.2010, 10:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Lady Tar

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Creativity - is, of course, the main evil of our time.

Scream - we want to exclaim: - "Lord, I would be your problem!"

Why do I read this article?
Sorry.



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"valorizirovat" - this is where?
Here, trying to give whichever greater value to consumption (pseudo) creativity, while remaining (in fact) dressing and primitive potreblentsem. (I understand)


Threat: I love Catherine Tar!
(Tar Baby, I love you!)

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scream - we want to exclaim: - "Lord, I would be your problem!"
Konstantin, share the problems (can do our best to help)?



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Старый 08.09.2010, 11:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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"valorizirovat" - this is where?
"It should be noted, still had no word valorization in conventional dictionaries of Russian language, it can only be found in dictionaries context-specific, economic and legal. Valorization Examples of interpretation:" increase in the price of the goods, the rate of securities, etc. with government activities, "" planned, organized raise the prices of commodities, the rate of securities, currencies, which occurs as a result, due to the activities undertaken by the State Government. "From the French valorisation -" artificial price increases. "Interestingly, the concept of valorization of capital" introduced by Karl Marx in the first volume of "Capital" (though it was a German term). And the modern economic community uses the French term valorisation - it translates as "the process to increase the capital stock."

Russian legislation the term valorisation - in his new understanding with regard to pensions - is relatively recent, in July 2009. On the one hand, the appearance of words in the text of the law - this is serious. On the other, to recognize his good hard.

In a recent program, "Speak in Russian" with the audience, we tried to do it. There were options such as a well-deserved indexation, additional amounts, scale, revision, increment ... And as already mentioned revaluation.

I thought the exact same word additional evaluation of accounting terminology. It captures the essence of the problem: pension increases, but the increase was not mechanical - estimated contribution, estimated length of the pensioner. And too, the term, but the term Russian!

In general, I personally would be a pity if the failure of the floor will be further secured willy-nilly in the language. "

This quote from the blog Marina Queen (columnist "Echo of Moscow")

Despite some raid snobbery as submitted, on the whole article quite relevant. Creativity - the word from the lexicon of barber Zvereva (if I had confused the name of the character).




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Lady Tar generally suffers radicalism and total rejection of dissent.

I really have fun reading her answers to questions readers lenta.ru.

"Galleries - a private business selling art, that art is not always good."

"It's not being so, what is the actual art, but there are parallel to some traditional. The traditional left in the past, those who today they are engaged, are engaged in a kind of fishing. There is still Palekh boxes and Khokhloma - so that's "contemporary traditional art" as you put it in the same status. "I will now know how to call you names familiar traditional artists, and gay-oriented art will praise.

  The above was the answer to the question: 'Why do you think galleries, which open on the money borrowed from other fields of business, and owned by wives or girlfriends bankers almost all engaged in "contemporary art"? "

"Generally speaking, modern art, as well as basic science, " - a complex area that requires education, and I would not advise him to judge those who, even with the Russian language there are certain problems. " About the fundamental science laughed. Consumers sovr.iskusstva probably only theoretical physicists, but they sell it for some reason the wife bankers. We must defer to the gallery space nat-mats.

"Regarding the last question: yes, the work of Piero Manzoni, Artist's shit" is stored in an art museum and, therefore, is an art. "Artist's shit" is a work of art, not the artist's shit, because it invested considerable intellectual force of the author and the hundreds of art historians and philosophers who have written about this and write. "Hud.muzee stored in another bucket of cleaners, and they invested a lot of intellectual work to create. Hordes of engineers, founders, punchers took part in their creation. Unlike them, I can not envy the "hundreds of art" looking in the ....

 In connection with Manzoni, an excellent answer she gave on the criteria for extraordinary potential sovr.isk.: "The criteria are: the credibility of the shape and depth of content that should offend and touch intellectually or emotionally."
"The product is good, if it worries and concerns (and not lull the beauty and harmony)" - after reading this, immediately came up with a copy of Contemporary Art,
 Paint a frenzied rat white and put in a low-Glass Aquarium. Called "Snow Queen".

 But critics napridumayut that this protest against the "snow" of glass balls and a middle class ordinary people who have "problems with the Russian language" (E. Tar), as if language affects perception of art, rather than paid tryndezh about him.

At the beginning of talks about "dozens of sites" only in St. Petersburg, where you can learn sovr.iskusstvom, and in 3 paragraphs: "contemporary Russian art now occupies in the world's a tiny place, which is associated with an almost complete absence of institutions that would help the artist, encourage creativity and brings it to the viewer. Artists fight alone. "Amazing consistency.

"There is no God. That is all I would say in answer to that question. "

"Vasnetsov and Aivazovsky painted very badly, I say to you as a professional art historian and expert on the art of 19 century."

If all this radicalism to feeding, as the curator sovr.isk .- okay, but if it is - casual manner of communication and this way of thinking, you can not even imagine how people deal with it.



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Старый 08.09.2010, 11:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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"valorizirovat" - this is where?

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Сообщение от fabosch; 1264541]Despite some raid snobbery as submitted, on the whole article quite relevant. Creativity - the word from the lexicon of barber Zvereva (if I had confused the name of the character).[/QUOTE]

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In general, I personally would be a pity if the failure of the floor will be further secured willy-nilly in the language. "
Successful whether the word itself is another matter, but is used in the context of a very stylish and ironically underscores (no practice) then. as stated .. (IMHO)
And what do you mean by "snobbery"? WHERE?
I personally tune with the ideas and feelings .. (And "valorization"!)

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hud.muzee stored in another bucket of cleaners, and they invested a lot of intellectual work to create. Hordes of engineers, founders, punchers took part in their creation. Unlike them, I can not envy the "hundreds of art" looking in the ....
It's true. It sounds like as a basis for conceptual works ..

Fed, yes you, my friend yourself (at heart), conceptualist, though!
Oh, your ideas would be, but in "the right frame!
You Dzyahoda with just a thought "in different planes "...( just a mess!)



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Tar - it is not sugar (in all senses of these two wonderful words). Yes, she's a snob. But we can not recognize her some advantages - it is what is now called "charisma" and they will skillfully uses. Yes, articles can be called controversial, but can not be called stupid.
As Vasnetsov and Aivazovsky - in fact, in my opinion, this is not the best draftsman.



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she snob
What sobsstno snobbery that?

Is that it understands the global processes?

The fact that she is familiar with international practice sovriska?

What?



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And what do you mean by "snobbery"? WHERE?
I personally tune with the ideas and feelings .. (And "valorization"!)
As for thoughts, as I wrote, I am with her in solidarity.

Under the snobbery, I understand the overall didactic tone, which is generally inherent in tar. This tone of unquestionable authority of all time. Usually in such tone is resorted to as an interior psychological support, when not enough actual arguments. In this case, I think it's unnecessary. But for me it's all too much - personally I always mingled with the perception of the text. Annoyed, you know.
This does not apply to the content of the text.



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