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Good evening !
Got an interesting artist \\\\ sculptor in years already , interesting work , but ... it's all someone else's work. And he had periods , then an artist, a sculptor, is yet another artist . So many went through . Some work directly copy , he said that only " inspired ", but seen as a strong inspiration was what came out the same way. ![]() I wonder where the line between copying ( plagiarism) style of one artist ( a sculptor, an installer ) and the influence that was exerted on one another. It's very interesting to hear how every man for himself opredyalyaet this time. If possible with examples. Thanks in advance . PS By the way , Richard Pettibone no one is accusing of plagiarism , on the contrary show suit and actively sold. An interesting phenomenon , if someone can explain why.
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Immediately recalled the words nebezysvestnye Cezanne : « Oh , this gentleman Gauguin, you just listen ... Oh, that Gauguin ... I had her , a little vision of the world , just a tiny ... Nothing special ... But it was my ... One day this gentleman Gauguin stole him from me . And with him gone. My poor ... He carried it with him everywhere: on the ships , according to different America and Oceania, through sugar cane plantations and grapefruit ... Has delivered to the Negro ... yes I know! Do you think I know what he did with it ... And I, what am I doing ? The poor , humble my vision !». 1. P. Cézanne . Fruit . 1874 2. P. Gauguin. Still Life with Apples and Green Vase . 1890 Последний раз редактировалось I-V; 06.10.2011 в 03:09. |
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Iside, you have a lovely habit of asking questions, no answers in the usual sense .
Pettibon is not a plagiarist . Now this is called simulationism , that is the intentional use of others' images ( in most cases, a well-known , because if the image is not " recognized " lost all sense made ), made so that there is no doubt that playing someone else's work ( although you can play even in other vehicles , such as painting a sculpture, or other material such as porcelain in a stainless steel pisuar ) , that is, it's like to put that in quotes to use quotations in a literary work - that is , look, it's not mine . That is the theory . Practice , as we know , "can a lot of gitik " (this quote , no plagiarism ) ... |
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From the subjective point of view: the artist can offend everyone. And every artist the right to use other people's ideas when creating his work. Yes, otherwise it can not be all the ideas have long been thought up before us. From a legal point of view, the boundary runs along the boundary of the copyright. If you do not go into details, only the author of the original work or his successors to decide what kind of damage caused to their copyright, whether they should go to court to prove something, and so, considering all costs, and that they will benefit from this ... Or, conversely, it is better to use an extra opportunity to remind the world about the author of the original work and see what happens ... Everyone decides on their own, so probably nobody today and not in a hurry to blame anyone of plagiarism. Yes, and it is difficult to prove anything ... The judges are no less subjective than the artists. One word - the creators! To paraphrase, it is necessary to "search for someone (at first) and what (specifically) favorably" at the moment. Well, that "everything flows, everything changes", I think, remind too. |
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update: It turns LCR has opened up topic where it was writing about and I even read it and forgot. LinkLink. And searching on behalf of David Salle and Sherrie Levine leaves the term appropriation art is to say Hmm, interesting. Цитата:
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Well, too appropriatsionizm of this opera. One of his most famous representatives - the notorious Koons.
In addition to the Internet in Russian is such an entertaining book - Ekaterina Andreeva (works in RM), "Postmodernism ," which appeared in the series "New Art History " published by ABC Classic in 2007 In general, the entire culture is based on postmodernizam plagiarism ( in the old sense of the term, now replaced by kotorok a series of glamorous new catchphrases ) But in general, agree with the " previous speakers ": a complicated, inefficient and unpredictable test (but it seems to me , the only accepted ) - this Court With regard to all the other criteria can refer only to " gitikam ." By the way noteworthy in this regard, numerous disassembly on " mimicry " brands. That's remarkable instances of plagiarism ... |
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But the bad consequences can occur only if someone is acting in a lawful right, or want an artist or gallery owner to court to prove them wrong. Precedents enough, and to my regret, for the most part, they are resolved in favor of the artist, not the original work. Prove all very complicated ... And by the way, in vain you so skeptical about the post fabosch, he used the word "applied" art, but in case law has long used such concepts as imitation, borrowing, derivative work, even appropriation (in addition to plagiarism). What is called "making a difference ..." |
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