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Сообщение от Nedogonov

... unhealthy, paranyalny passions ...
... dermo-containing allegations Degtyar ...
... dirty craft Hirst ...
... poured lousy, dirty, and unreasonable accusations ...
... bacillus rude people and became actively proliferate at the time (or near the time), when the voiced phrase "degenerate art"
... Degenerate, due to deficits in its development ... has infantile, one-sided and rigid mental organization, sluggish, cold heart. Mental activity it can manifest itself only in the form of hysterical psychopathy (O. Kulik, A. Brenner and others like them perverts).
... vicious, hate "International ..." and induced them to "degenerate art"
... "Conspiracy Judaizers"
... sinister Golem, homunculus, grown in the late XIX century, the Marxist-Trotskyist curly camarilla and now living preying on people's hearts, souls, minds
... the Protestant ethic, with the agility of a monkey drawing the spiritual values in the "metal" ...
... degenerates "to the streets" to take a crap in museums, public masturbate and fuck with animals ...
... hateful misanthropic, pat-psychological "creativity"
... At the international exhibitions, fairs and biennials are just degenerates "Russian Art"
... foul in public places
... breeds ... new degenerates
... participants thoroughly lay on opposite sides

This inquisitorial prosecutors and vocabulary of only one message. And if you take all ... So aromatize atmosphere of the forum, perhaps, no one had succeeded.
The words of Nietzsche, are applicable to this case, has already voiced at the forum:

Сообщение от fross

"Beware of morally indignant people: they are inherent in the sting cowardly, hidden even from their own anger ."

The pathos of these guardians of the common good is always directed to the protection of truth, goodness and beauty. But for some reason, these high values of such patronage are beginning to look as if they had not really soaked in formalin, and in cadaveric poison. Where there shalunishke Hirst with his cows.

Actually, this whole sad and sticky erundovina ostensibly about art, interspersed with the Black Hundreds tsitatkami, preachy platitudes and free to all diagnoses and all - reading for the amateur.
If you are a person has decided to erect a litpamyatnik, where

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

flies swirling above the text .....

- It is his right.
Could simply not pay at all this attention. But there is one but.

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Thanks to the efforts of many people, who have spent the abyss of personal time out to share their professional knowledge and experience, and here added a particle of his soul, the forum began to take shape the tradition alive, intelligent, and generally tolerant of communication. (Participants with experience will recall how difficult it was to achieve this delicate balance in a positive diametrically differences on a number of thorny issues.) Artinvestment.ru began to emerge not only as a pragmatic profile site and forum, but also as an interesting and multifaceted educational resource on art.
And then there was a serious problem.
The rise in popularity led to an influx of people interested in art, but with only basic knowledge of its history and theory. Or - even worse - consider themselves experts on the basis of random and fragmentary information gleaned by them in the media and networks. As a result, people seeking non-existent simple answers to complex issues of contemporary art, meet here, "experts" willing to offer the desired "answers" in the most accessible and authoritarian form: there is a demand - there is proposal. As usual in such cases, the degree of aggressiveness and self-confidence is proportional to the degree of ignorance.
It would seem that should give a reasoned critique of false allegations. But the trouble, talk with "intellectuals" is similar to delirium tremens. That situation is a joke, when easier to surrender than to explain why not.
Engage in idle talk without a shadow of doubt on the forehead - where as easily. But go and Answer. Smolchish - think that I agree or nothing to object. Spend time (and it does not always have) and force the disclosure of the topic - will not penetrate, and in response - ten more stupid just settle.
Vicious circle. But if you do not try to unlock it, it would not have to recollect later: sorry, but he was a good forum ...

One could point by point to show that almost all that he wrote Nedogonov on the themes of art, or false, or tendentious stretch, or an empty platitude. But give this "fascinating" lesson of his life - for what sins?
So, for example, will focus only on a single, central point of this "theme".

Сообщение от Nedogonov

... "Degenerate art" I will continue to be called "degenerate art" (ID), for support of degenerative art (literally, not in the Nazi sense) can only be an artist-degenerate (degenerate, as is known - is a sick man with signs of mental or physical degeneration).
...
Further suggest, nevertheless, willing to speak about whether there was a general in nature such a distinction, on opposite sides of which are art and «Art degenerates», and if there - how to grope her. No rudeness ...

Such an approach logically implies the following. Invented a special definition of art on the grounds of disability personality of the artist. The word "degenerate", mind you, is not a scientific concept (ie the notion of having a quantitative determination), and evaluative terms - like the word "idiot" or "goon". It gives everyone the opportunity to make it to the neighbors, according to their understanding. It is oriented not to cure, but in isolation, so do not use humanitarian psychology, but readily applied psychiatry for repressive regimes. Mr. dreams of becoming a psychologist, a psychiatrist in camp on a global scale?
Stake out the scope of its activities - identification degenerates among artists, art critics and art lovers, Dr. Nedogonov invites all to do groping boundaries between art and the present "degenerative."
Now consider its definition:

"« degenerate art "I will continue to call" art degenerates »".

Thus, the demarcation of boundaries within the art will hold all the same to glavspets vyyavlyaniyu degenerates - "poor old Nedogonov", as somewhere he identified himself compassionately.
Well, anywhere "learning" in such manner and at such a level. "No rudeness.