[Art-lover]

Each pessimist secretly hoped that the optimists will be able to convince him. That's my position DSF and LSR on the question of realizability of talent impresses more than their own skepticism. However, it is clear that this question is too existential to have a definite answer - too closely, he merges with the region is not only hypothetical but also metaphysical:

Сообщение от LCR

Of course, when you see the work sooner gone a great artist, bear to think what we have been deprived. But by itself this is an infinite sadness, frustration, this suggests that the artist realized that - he left things in full force showing his talent - otherwise, what would we regret?

All true, but why is the infinite sadness, if we are confident that the talent has manifested itself in full force? ...
If

Сообщение от LCR

And yet, the talent always realized.

, then such a serious problem we have:

Сообщение от LCR

Our main problem, I think it is rather to find it, do not pass, because the information very much, and it is filtered in some way, which you both time and talk.

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But in general, I agree here with the LCR: this is a constructive problem, which should be addressed, and which has not yet been solved even in principle. fross has already allocated some points to this problem:

Сообщение от fross

А где вообще могут показать свои работы художники без существенных материальных затрат? And so that they could see and give their assessment of the specialists?

Maybe it's time to move from the theme "A good artist - a successful artist?" to the topic "What can I do to make a good artist had a better chance to implement?

But the minimal conditions for creativity - it is only one facet of life, which relates the fate of talent. The second line - is that some of the poets (Pasternak and Tsvetaeva?) Defined as "innate wound high souls." Lack of peace in the soul, eternal dissatisfaction with himself and the world, "unreasonable" depression, a dispute with God, friction with the neighbors ...
This side of life is only slightly dependent on our position. Below - is not an exhaustive list of "sold" by artists who have set a point in his creative destiny.

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The first part of the list drawn up based on Wikipedia, a second, complementary, take c American site and left (so far) without translation.

Arshile Gorky
(born Arshile Gorky, actually Vostanik Manuk Adoyan, 1904, Jorge, Vaspurakan, Western Armenia - July 21, 1948, Sherman, Connecticut, USA) - American artist of Armenian descent, one of the founders of the "abstract surrealism." Year of death Hills was full of tragic events: burns workshop Hills along with the works, the artist reveals cancer, he gets in a car accident and broke her arm, deprived of the opportunity to paint, but his wife leaves him, taking their child. At the age of 44 years Gorky commits suicide.

Belloli, Andrew Franzevich
(1820-1881) - painter, portrait artist and salon painting.
The creative activity of A. Belloli has developed in Russia and his work happily brought him fame, but in 1881 the artist committed suicide.

Borromini, Francesco
(Italian: Francesco Borromini; actually Francesco Castelli, Italian. Francesco Castelli, September 25, 1599, Bisson, Ticino - August 2, 1667, Rome) - Italian architect, the most radical representative of the early Baroque. Burned the manuscripts and drawings, and then committed suicide. Pierced a ceremonial sword and die within 24 hours.

Witte, Emanuel de
(niderl. Emanuel de Witte and Manuel de Witt, niderl. Manuel de Witt, approx. 1617, Alkmaar - 1692, Amsterdam) - Netherlandish painter. Notable for the extremes in behavior, was a gambler, a bully, now and then to go into debt, constantly changed the place of residence, breaking contracts with traders painting. After the break with another creditor hanged winter's night on the city bridge.

Gamburd, Moses Efimovich
Moses Yefimovich Gamburd (until 1940 known as Max Gamburd, rom. Max (Moisei) Gamburd; October 6, 1903, Chisinau Bessarabia Province - July 14, 1954, ibid) - Bessarabian Romanian and Moldavian sculptor. A few days after his solo exhibition in Chisinau, and being one of the most influential artists of the republic suddenly committed suicide

Gogh, Vincent van
March 30, 1853, Groot-Zundert, near Breda, Netherlands - July 29, 1890, Auvers-sur-Oise, France). Committed suicide on July 29, 1890, fatally wounding himself with a shot from a pistol. According to his brother Theo, who was with Vincent in his death moments, the artist's last words were: La tristesse durera toujours ( «grief will last forever").

Gottlieb, Maurice
(Ukrainian Маврикій Готтліб, Pol. Maurycy Gottlieb, 21 or 28 February 1856, Drogobych, then Austria - July 17, 1879, Krakow) - Ukrainian and Polish artist, Galician Jew.
Died suddenly (presumed to have committed suicide)

Dominguez, Oscar
(Spanish Oscar Dominguez; January 7, 1906, Tenerife - December 31, 1957, Paris) - Spanish painter and sculptor, one of the brightest representatives of surrealism. Committed suicide by cutting his wrists

Jullian, Philippe
born Philippe Simun (born Philippe Jullian, 11 July 1919, Bordeaux - 25 September 1977, Paris) - French writer, secular chronicler, collector, graphic artist, book illustrator. Prose Jullian awarded motives gomoerotiki, transvestism, sadomasochism.
Suicide.

Cassandre, Adolphe Murony,
better known as AM Cassandre (January 24, 1901 - June 17, 1968) - an influential Ukrainian-French painter, lithographer, artist posters and designer of the font. In 1963 he creates the world-famous logo Yves Saint-Laurent.
In 1968, the depression leads AM Cassandra suicide in Paris.

Kirchner, Ernst Ludwig
(German: Ernst Ludwig Kirchner; May 6, 1880, Aschaffenburg - June 15, 1938, the Frauenkirche-Vildboden near Davos) - a classic of German expressionism. In 1937 the artist counted among the Nazis to the representatives of "degenerate art", 639 of his works removed from German museums. Exhausted by illness and addicted to drugs painter commits suicide

Lembruk Wilhelm
  (German: Wilhelm Lehmbruck; January 4, 1881, Maeder, now consisting of Duisburg - March 25, 1919, Berlin) - the prominent German sculptor, painter and graphic artist. Suicide.

Maksimovic, Vsevolod
(1894-1914) - Ukrainian avant-garde artist, beginning of XX century. In 1914 he played a major role in avant-garde film "Drama in the cabaret Futurists. Shortly thereafter, he committed suicide. Most likely, the reason which pushed the artist to such a step, was the failure of his personal exhibition in Moscow. According to another version suicide caused unhappy love

Meninsky, Bernard
(born Bernard Meninsky; 1891, Ukraine - 1950, London) - British artist. The son of Polish Jews. Suffered from mental illness, committed suicide.

Moll, Karl
(German Carl Moll; April 23, 1861, Vienna - April 13, 1945, ibid) - Austrian art nouveau era artist. In 30-ies. Moll proved himself as a convinced National Socialist. In 1945, when Soviet troops entered Vienna, Carl Moll, together with his daughter and her husband committed suicide in his villa.

Paskin, Jules
(otherwise - Pasco, Paskhin) (born Jules Pascin, in fact, Julius Mordecai Pinkas, 31 March 1885, Vidin, Bulgaria - June 2, 1930, Paris) - Bulgarian painter and graphic artist of the Paris School, a citizen of the United States (since 1920), most of life lived in France. Paskin, from his youth muchivshiysya depression and constantly doubted his own gift, committed suicide by hanging himself in a Paris studio.

Rothko, Mark
(born Mark Rothko, name at birth Marcus Ya Rothkovich, September 25, 1903, Dvinsk - February 25, 1970, New York) - American artist born in Latvia, the leading representative of abstract expressionism. The creative artist's rise was interrupted by cancer have been revealed by the artist, which he preferred a voluntary way. Slashed her wrists in his New Yoruskoy studio.

Soroka, Grigory
(real name is Washi? lev Magpie - wrong name, correct - Sorokin.) 15 (27) November 1823, the village Pokrovsky, now Tver Oblast - 10 (22) April 1864, ibid) - Russian painter. From the serfs. Once epomeschik Miliukov Sorokin ordered flogged for some fault, after which the artist committed suicide - hung himself. He was buried in the church wall.

Staël, Nicolas de
(born Nicolas de Stae "l, 5 January 1914, St. Petersburg - March 16, 1955, Antibes, France) - French painter of Russian origin, one of the greatest masters of postwar European art. In 1953, de Stael is experiencing severe nervous crisis, and hiding in the southern France, where unexpectedly commits suicide, jumping from the window of his antibskoy workshop.

Tsyurn, Unica
(born Nora Berta Unica Ruth Zu "rn; July 6, 1916, Berlin - October 19, 1970, Paris) - German writer, painter, sculptor.'s friend and model of Hans Bellmer. Bellmer After a stroke, which left him almost immobile, Tsyurn committed suicide on leaving the psychiatric clinic, jumping out of windows of Parisian apartment.

Stauffer-Bern, Karl
(German: Karl Stauffer-Bern) (2 September 1857, Trubschachen, Canton of Bern - January 24, 1891, Florence) - Swiss painter, graphic artist and sculptor. Commits suicide by taking a lethal dose of medication.

Jeanne Hébuterne
(born Jeanne He'buterne; April 6, 1898 - January 25, 1920) - French painter, famous model and an informal artist's wife Amedeo Modigliani. When Modigliani died, the family of Joan brought her home, but totally distraught girl two days after Modigliani's death had thrown out the window on the fifth floor.

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Alexander, Henry (ca. 1860-1894) American painter
Drank carbolic acid.

Arbus, Diane (1923-1971) American photographer
Took a lethal dose of barbiturates and slashed her wrists.

Gertrude Margaret Lowthian (1868-1926) English architectural historian.
Overdosed on sleeping pills in Baghdad.

Bonvin, Le'on (1834-1866) French watercolorist
Hanged himself from a tree in the forest of Meudon, after a Parisian dealer rejected his paintings.

Bugatti, Rembrandt (1884-1916) Italian sculptor and draftsman
Put on one of his finest suits and gassed himself.

Bupalos and Athenis (active ca. 540-ca. 537 BC) Greek sculptors
Rumored to have been driven to suicide by the nasty, albeit poetic, written attacks of Hipponax (who apparently didn't like their sculpture of him).

Carrington, Dora (1893-1932) English painter and decorative artist
Shot herself a few weeks after the death of her companion, Lytton Strachey.

Crevel, Rene '(1900-1935) French Dada and Surrealist poet
Gassed himself the day before the Congress of Writers for the Defense of Culture met in Paris.

Cziga'ny, Dezso "(1883-1937) Hungarian painter
Committed suicide in a psychotic fit, but not before killing his family.

Daswanth (active ca. 1560; d 1584) Indian miniature painter
Stabbed himself with a dagger.

Dayes, Edward (1763-1804) English painter, draftsman and printmaker

Doort, Abraham van der (1575/80-1640) Dutch wax-modeler, drawing-master and administrator
Left this world despondent over the thought that he might have misplaced one of Charles I's favorite miniatures.

Erhard, Johann Chirstoph (1795-1822) German painter and printmaker

Fagan, Robert (1761-1816) English painter, archaeologist and dealer
Jumped out of a window in Rome.

Frank, Jean-Michel (1895-1941) French designer
Leapt to his death in New York City after having been there for one week. Purely coincidental.

Fries, Ernst (1801-1833) German draftsman, painter and lithographer
Slit his wrist.

Gagneraux, Be'nigne (1756-1795) French painter and engraver
"Fell" out of a window in Florence.

Gerstl, Richard (1883-1908) Austrian painter and draftsman
Disemboweled himself with a butcher knife after a brief romantic fling with the wife of the composer Arnold Schoenberg.

Gertler, Mark (1891-1939) English painter
Tightly sealed up a room and turned on the gas ring.

Greco, Alberto (1915-1965) Argentine painter, sculptor and performance artist
Overdosed on barbiturates, and left notes about how it felt (for as long as he could, anyway).

Gros, Baron Jean-Antoine (1771-1835) French painter
Drowned himself in the Seine

Haydon, Benjamin Robert (1786-1846) English painter, teacher and writer
Shot himself, then cut his throat.

He'buterne, Jeanne (1898-1920) French painter
Pregnant with their second child, she leapt from a third-story window two days after her partner, Amedeo Modigliani, died of tuberculosis.

Johnson, Ray (1927-1995) American painter, collagist and performance artist
Committed "Rayocide" one Friday the 13th by jumping off a Sag Harbor bridge and backstroking away.

Kahlo, Frida (1907-1954) Mexican painter

We're fairly certain she overdosed on painkillers, though the coroner's report read, "pulmonary embolism."

Kricke, Norbert (1922-1984) German sculptor

Kruyder, Herman (1881-1935) Dutch painter and draftsman
Committed suicide in a psychiatric hospital.

Kurzweil, Max (1867-1916) Austrian painter and printmaker
On leave from his position as war artist in Istria, he did it in Vienna.

Lefe `vre, Robert-Jacques-Franc, ois (1755-1830) French painter

Lemoyne, Franc, ois (1688-1737) French painter and draftsman

Lo Savio, Francesco (1935-1963) Italian painter and sculptor

Lombardi, Mark (1951-2000) American draftsman
Hanged himself in his Williamsburg, New York studio.

Malaval, Robert (1937-1980) French painter and sculptor
Shot himself in the head.

Maurer, Alfred (1868-1932) American painter
Hanged himself in the doorway of his father's bedroom.

Mayakovsky, Vladimir (1893-1930) Russian poet, playwright and artist
Shot himself.

Mayer, Constance (1775-1821) French painter
Cut her throat with the razor of painter Pierre-Paul Prud'hon, who'd been her teacher and then her lover but was not, apparently, going to be her husband.

Min Yo (ng-hwan (1861-1905) Korean calligrapher and painter
Was so strongly opposed to living under the Protection Treaty being enforced by Japan, that he decided not to.

Minton, John (1917-1957) English painter and illustrator
Took an overdose of Tuinal.

Pellizza da Volpedo, Giuseppe (1868-1907) Italian painter
Hanged himself after the deaths of his wife and son.

Re'quichot, Bernard (1929-1961) French painter, collagist and writer

Robert, Louis-Le'opold (1794-1835) Swiss painter
Killed himself in Venice, in front of his easel, on the 10th anniversary of his brother's suicide.

Sage, Kay (1898-1963) American painter and poet

Seymour, Robert (1800-1836) English printmaker and painter
Shot himself in the garden at his home in Islington.

Soares dos Reis, Anto'nio (1847-1889) Portuguese sculptor, engraver and teacher

Stauffer-Bern, Karl (1857-1891) Swiss printmaker, painter, sculptor and poet

Tilson, Henry (? 1659-1695) English painter and draftsman
Shot himself through the heart with a pistol over the unrequited love of a wealthy patroness.

Vaughan, Keith (1912-1977) English painter
Chose to overdose, rather than live with bowel cancer, kidney disease and depression.

Watanabe Kazan (1793-1841) Japanese painter
Committed an honorable suicide after a run in with the Tokugawa shogunate (over its isolationist policies) led to his being under house arrest.

Witkiewicz, Stanislaw Ignacy (1895-1939) Polish writer, art theorist, painter and photographer
When the Second Army invaded Poland, he tied himself to his lover, fed her poison and slit his wrists. She regained consciousness. Him - no.

Wood, Christopher (1901-1930) English painter
Stepped in front of a train.

Xue Ji (AD 649-713) Chinese calligrapher and scholar-official
Forced to commit suicide after somehow becoming embroiled in a plot to poison the new emperor.