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Restoration in Europe - is much more expensive , than in Russia at times ....
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On the other I will not argue, it's all very subjective. Personally, I do not believe in these fairy tales about good restorers busy as I've seen enough of any (self hereditary), should not one size fits ... There are inept restorers on large sites by crew, and there are very talented but did not know how to sell yourself and communicate. All there is.
And these words about "more Europe" than you ever can prove anything?
I can name at least two major arguments against it. First, some restoration centers overfed state where the work of tenders in the picture as described by the author can be evaluated in the 250-500 thousand and even millions. Cost while still in the band that I have at the beginning of the discussion. Go to
http://www.gz-spb.ru or
http://www.sberbank-ast.ru (in the public domain, not all can be found, but the presentation on the market you can get). I though all have a license, without nepotism win nizya (walking, licking at these numbers: eek
>, but that is the subject of another discussion. I refer to the state prices, it's not the whole market, but many just on it and live.
Second, in Russia is much lower than the world GDP and significantly inflated salaries. In other words, we have car mechanic, a programmer, restorer or decorator earn statistically more than the world average (working less time, less effective). Source Federal State Statistics Service.
In fairness, noting that the restoration of the correct order in Russia, our conservators. The question is not in price. Justification, one language, one tradition, especially with the amendment to the "Russian" understanding of how to restore, for example, icons, no barriers to movement and problems with customs. And so on. As for the mythical difference in price, here are easy to market mechanisms, when such a price difference is substantial, the market will begin to flow in a region where costs are lower. So it is, and will, no matter what to talk about potatoes, cocaine or restorations.
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By the way, paying by the hour - this is the "notion" of the West ..
There pay is calculated on the clock ... and the amount of restoring the picture - is large enough.
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What do you somehow contradicting yourself. Who invented it does not matter. But we have now and into the USSR, the cost of restoration of hours and calculated (measurement area of damage is multiplied by the difficulty level and type of work hours), for example, the specification for the restoration of furniture was the last in 1984, then in 1999 and more (can not remember the year) with revisions. So we are still working on 1984, only on the coefficients. So the argument about the watch does not prove anything.
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Museum restorer of Russia, which works only on the state (without special orders) - was doomed to a miserable existence, and death by starvation (without irony)  > |
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> Now pay from the state to the restorer goes through several layers, each selected by about 50%. If they were not so much that the restorers went to business class on the cars, and drive their cars quite decent ... And the first layer, oh how trite - rollback officials. The second and the rest - poluchinovnichi strutktury who spend all of the general contractor to subcontract. I had an order that I got from one of Novgorod, which she passed on a subcontract SSF, which gave the FSB the subcontract.
> All members of the chain including the last two have a license for restoration. There are a few restorers blankly at the salary, but it's rudimentary market sector, not describing the situation. Those who are talented or a pain in the Well - quite find a good booking and payment.
In general, I would not say that the restorers have nothing to eat. The fact that the market "due to" over-regulation (mostly mediocre licensing policy) runs through one place, it is a fact, but the restorers did not die of starvation. Well trust me to work through unpleasant, but such is the policy of the state and government. I see that the power above all bodies responsible for issues of restoration, not interested in a balanced market transparency. And it is clearly seen in politics in recent years. They did not care about salary, work quality, warranty. Although formally all the "cool": that any month with a new pump gives up a large object. Who drank there money, what quality of work - all on ^(*%$.
For reference.
Average cost of restoration of the facade on Peter - 4.5-10 million actual cost (the cost of materials and the final RFP Executive) 0.3-1.2 million According to my calculations in St. Petersburg on a facade has five levels of customers at each stage minus 50%.
Average cost of restoring the picture as the author of threads 25-60 in St. Petersburg and in Moscow, 35-80. This is a private conservator or small workshop. Moreover, if the order comes from the state the cost of outsourcing - by 1 order of magnitude higher. That is an average of nulik should be added.