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Борис Кон 22.09.2012 19:43

Engraving help attribute
 
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Dear Lord , help me to understand dating.
Engraving for sale.
Here's a link to the British Museum:
Engraving dates from 1762 - 1792 year.
As I understand it through a translator, is a reprint of the 19th century , produced by the publisher Marel. Again - are biographical data that publisher.
Why then she engraving dates from the 18th century ?
Or something I did not understand.

Thank you for your participation.

Elek 22.09.2012 20:16

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2270241)
Dear Lord , help me to understand dating.
Engraving for sale.
Here's a link to the British Museum:
Engraving dates from 1762 - 1792 year.
As I understand it through a translator, is a reprint of the 19th century , produced by the publisher Marel. Again - are biographical data that publisher.
Why then she engraving dates from the 18th century ?
Or something I did not understand.

Thanks for participating .

I understand that the first edition released Jean Baptiste Tilliard in the 18th century on the basis of the original Jean Baptiste Le Prince. What is stored in the museum - it is a later edition, issued in 19 Marel based Tilliard'a cliche .

kr555 22.09.2012 22:08

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2270281)
based on clichés Tilliard'a.

19th century restrike - that is the new cliche.

Elek 22.09.2012 22:38

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 2270591)
19th century restrike - that is the new cliche.


As I see it, "restrike" means the re-release the old cliche.
Example:

Борис Кон 22.09.2012 23:20

[QUOTE=Elek; 2270691 ] As far as I can see , "restrike" means the re-release the old cliche. example:


I understand that to make a new copy of Marel .
I re- copy.
The second engraving : LE REVEIL DES ENFANS too Marel, and in the VM - the original.

Elek, not you let me decipher the following sentence it to your means: ( otpech. Prod. , 1 p.)???
Here's the full statement from the Academy of Fine Arts : Kissing Elizabeth : "How these things ... I wrote Mr. Lebrion - Engraved E. Cat ." In the list. Plaque Acad. thin. ( otpech. Prod. , 1 p.).

Thanks in advance :)

Added after 3 minutes
* Tobish be decrypted in this case, this is in full:


"... In the list. Plaque Acad. Thin. (Otpech. Prod., 1 p.)"


?

kr555 22.09.2012 23:37

Elek, yes, checked - mostly really used in this meaning.
Mixed up somehow with the recut for Japanese prints, where the re-engraved.

Elek 22.09.2012 23:38

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2270781)
I understand that to make a new copy of Marel .
I re- copy .

Released a second edition. In one draw all the work (the series ) is the original (s ). One of the original does not exist.
Reprint the original essence is released later. If the cliche is not destroyed , it is possible again to release the original - is the n-th edition /circulation.

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2270781)
Elek, not you let me decipher the following sentence it to your means: In sheet. Plaque Acad. thin. ( otpech. Prod. , 1 p.)???

I understand this: "In the pages. Blackboard ( ads? ) In the Academy of Arts. Prints sell for one ruble ."


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