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Самвел 21.09.2010 22:40

Question?
 
Today nadtknulsya on, and so the question arose as to be on this forum, if you suddenly want to criticize, to say that well, so the artist himself, nothing special, but the artist is no longer young, made a show, well tried, and it feels like the community forum, what to do, what to do. Write what you think or net.Promolchat, not to spoil the theme, even if it's a personal opinion?

Кирилл Сызранский 21.09.2010 22:45

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1286632)
keep silent, not to spoil the topic, even if it's a personal opinion?

Well, if you specifically asked, answer it.

artcol 21.09.2010 23:08

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1286632)
Today nadtknulsya on the topic, and so the question arose as to be on this forum, if you suddenly want to criticize, to say that well, so the artist himself, nothing special, but the artist is no longer young, made the exhibition, well tried and like the community forum like what to do, what to do. Write what you think or net.Promolchat, not to spoil the theme, even if it's a personal opinion?

Competent critics have not been harmful to anyone.

NEO 21.09.2010 23:22

There is a notion of tact, as if to explain, if necessary.
Rejection of an artist you do not fatally? But perhaps, at his age is extremely dangerous to criticize the (whole life in an empty) for health. What do you prefer - defending their views, knowledge and understanding of painting or health /life of another person?

boudini 22.09.2010 00:12

As for criticism it should be done in a most human, compassionate form with respect to all personal achievements and accomplishments.

Любознательный 22.09.2010 02:08

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1286632)
Today nadtknulsya on the topic, and so the question arose as to be on this forum, if you suddenly want to criticize, to say that well, so the artist himself, nothing special, but the artist is no longer young, made the exhibition, well tried and like the community forum like what to do, what to do. Write what you think or net.Promolchat, not to spoil the theme, even if it's a personal opinion?

Of course, every artist considers himself a genius. However, as every writer. Without faith in yourself you can draw a signboard or a lifetime to keep a diary. Create - is impossible.
But this - the problem of the artist (writer), but not others.

Simulate the situation. Suppose I decided to invest my money earned in the work of the artist, after reading entirely positive responses to the topic at the August body. And not on the anniversary of the artist or his death. Taking everything at face value, because they write very experienced professionals.
Based on the fact that they write these professionals exactly what they think about the work, but not the identity itself of the artist.

Кирилл Сызранский 22.09.2010 02:47

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And this is looking at what section of the forum came to your question.

If the author shows his work, too, can have different opinions.
Someone looking at work, they may be interested in, someone they will remain indifferent, someone does not like. No reason, I believe, and I say nothing.

You remember the theme of the works of British Hirst or Cheka our Malevich, opinions were different, the spores were sharp, hot. And the investment?
How is it possible to taste other people's plans to invest their money? [/URL], etc.
Yes, and even conducted seminars this resource, there is a lot of art investment can be found.
There is a site and a large base which contains information on more than 95 000 deals with the works of Russian artists, including works by representatives of the Russian abroad. The database includes more than 4900 artists.
You can determine the investment, I think.
Let the very problem of multiplying your money will be your problem. No?

A forum for the other, for live communication, exchange views, news, to provide feasible help some answers to questions from the participants ...

Любознательный 22.09.2010 03:14

Cyril Syzranskiy,

The situation that was invented by me, typical collector birochek.
Personally, I like not threatened.

Birochniki buy not to your liking (for fun), but on the advice of specialists for their money (investments). That you know very well.
So much of your post is not relevant and not on the topic.
Anyway, I took his question this way.
I thought and still think that the truth - more expensive.
That is what I wrote.
Despite the different responses to the question of Samvel.
Because I think so, but not otherwise.
That is discussed?

Кирилл Сызранский 22.09.2010 03:30

You wrote this:
You have to define yourself, what you need painting.

Fed 22.09.2010 08:11

So, if you refer to the Gospel, the discussion of artists (sound) - is appropriate.

Ie-pornography :), not paintings.

SergeiSK 22.09.2010 08:19

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1286722)
Smart criticism is not harmful to anyone.

Exactly!

Artist: I am an artist!

Work: And I think you're shit!


Daniel Harms

Konstantin 22.09.2010 10:22

After all, this investment will hang on their wall.

Interestingly, in which specific topics on the mediocre painting forum said another?
Quite the contrary forum users differ critically. In this regard, I have often been criticized modern galleries, which they say you do not show - all blamed.

Allena 22.09.2010 10:25

Question Samvel very correct, but the answers are here already heard, in my opinion, the wise: Of course, the forum - a place for discussion and their opinions should be able to express tactfully.

It seems to me, NEO slightly exaggerated, talking about life and health. In fact, he was right, but must be treated carefully, not only to artists, and generally to people, is not it?
 
Artist - is not only a state of mind, but a profession, with profession of public. Without the audience there is no artist. If you keep this in mind, the question of Samvel immediately gets the only possible answer.
By showing his work to the public, the author must be prepared for her reaction. Moreover, he must be ready not only to delight, indifference and criticism, but to frank rudeness, because the cultural level of the public is not uniform. And the artist's ability to perceive the public comments - this is, so to speak, professional skill. Praise, abuse, indifference, and criticism on the merits - the artist should be able to, so to speak, to work with all this.

тандем 22.09.2010 12:51

Moreover, he must be ready not only to delight, indifference and criticism, but to frank rudeness, because the cultural level of the audience is heterogeneous. [/QUOTE]

iside 22.09.2010 12:59

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1286632)
... how to be on this forum, if you suddenly want to criticize, to say that well, so the artist himself, nothing special ... Write what you think or not. Remain silent, not to spoil the theme, even if it's a personal opinion?

As already noted by other participants, criticism should be tactful (both in principle and any communication with anyone whatsoever), something normal people know about it, but these two gentlemen are the artists, often reaching new heights of rudeness and coarseness in the consideration of other artists , quite innocently feel right, so to speak, they say, they are also artists.

The second point that the competent and constructive criticism, we must all still be a critic or art historian (expert), ie enough to be a certain number artbiznese years as an art dealer, artist or collector, etc. Although one another and do not interfere, but does not mean that one automatically follows the other. As in any case in any other profession units reach and tend to have universal knowledge.

Here you are Samvel, are employed in a certain type of art, where you have vast knowledge, but do you feel as comfortable when meeting with little-known artists, which tells the sometimes Liana, you can also easily and exactly to determine the weakness or strength of contemporary artists?

The meaning of my message is that if you just suddenly feel like , it is best to restrain myself, as they say, silence is gold. And if you have something to say deployed with examples and explanations, please.


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