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Captain 25.11.2013 12:19

More CPV
 
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I would like to get advice about my CPV . I bought it from a friend about five years ago , and he said he bought it in Moscow in 1979 komissionke year -80m . I did a laser expert at the Institute of Physics ... Signature and the work done by the same carcass composition at about the same time. Whatman not modern . Signature , well, very similar! Thank you for any comments.

I-V 25.11.2013 15:48

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Сообщение от Captain (Сообщение 2861781)
signature, well, very similar!


Well, not very similar!


If you are, of course, Petrov-Vodkin, whose work this portrait is not (and not so much because of the signature, but because of manners)

Captain 25.11.2013 16:11

And not all of the CPV in one manner?
I agree in the main, similar works ink I had not found.
Explain only about signatures.
What, what details do you find it to another (not his).

I-V 25.11.2013 16:21

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Сообщение от Captain (Сообщение 2862261)
explain only about signatures.
What, what details do you find it to another (not his).


There Petrov-Vodkin line lettering tight like strained - look nice!
Signed as a click of a whip.


Your "CPV" dryablenky and insecure.

Игорь Гурьев 25.11.2013 17:22

Kuzma Sergeyevich drawing soft, tremulous, and then hard and almost rude.

No it's not Kuzma.

Captain 25.11.2013 17:23

I would like something more substantial to hear.
Signature he sometimes is not what a click is not like a whip ...
To put it mildly, it is sometimes quite primitive, unlike his finest works.
But this sin many ...

And that's about manners ink work I also have doubts.

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Kuzma Sergeyevich drawing soft, tremulous, and then hard and almost rude.
No it's not Kuzma.

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Can morning drew soul burned?

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About the picture, I can say that the softness and trepidation felt in toning, background, shade and contour the same figure by the way, sharp, confident and decisive ...

Captain 26.11.2013 21:23

It would seem not exhausted the topic of discussion, I would like more specific arguments.
Or they are exhausted?

camertus 26.11.2013 23:35

Certainly not Vodkin.
Like mascara 1930s so rare!
It can be seen that after signed and in place.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.11.2013 23:49

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Сообщение от camertus (Сообщение 2864981)
As if mascara 1930s so rare!

And there is such?
And do not dry in 80 years?
Not spoiled?
Thickens?

And, most importantly, the difference between black ink 1930 from the current black mascara?

camertus 27.11.2013 19:36

old ink contains shellac as a thickener, now probably replace it with something.
so that there are differences.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.11.2013 19:52

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Сообщение от camertus; 2865881"
old ink contains shellac as a thickener

Well , you can buy some European , it just contains shellac .
For example , Sennelier Color Lines manufacturer Max Sauser :
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Mascara has a deep rich color , bright intense shades due to the presence in its composition of shellac .

тата 27.11.2013 21:11

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Сообщение от camertus (Сообщение 2865881)
old ink contains shellac as a thickener, now probably replace it with something.
so that there are differences.


Well no shortage of shellac, and you can add icons used for gilding, are there any store I can share, but I think there is a modern on it.
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Captain 28.11.2013 10:16

Can you tell me where I can get ink 1930s?

Make it easier for the same recipes!

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In the late '80s such processing can be bought from the shop now known many Titans brush or their heirs - well most for polinnik!
And what's the point was to forge!


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