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artcol 11.04.2012 01:25

Scoop-a ...
 
One authority in his community as a professor of psychology on television explaining how he became a psychologist. The choice of a profession influenced by an episode that took place with him in his 10 years.

They came to the school a group of young psychologists from the State University to conduct experimental studies of the intellect of students. Distributed questionnaires with questions. We had to put the crosses on the selected otvette.


Among the responses the future, Professor of Psychology remember this: "Who is faster moving, horse, or a goose?" Boy - a future psychologist was surprised such a question. After all, the same can not be so smart uncle did not know such simple things, he decided. The boy suspected a trick.

How then commented on his professor's decision to: "It seems to be called a reflection of the second order"

"Perhaps a wild goose was flying, and" - he thought the boy and put a cross in the "goose faster"
There, in the questionnaires were still a lot of similar questions.

Child's test results surprised. Scientific Commission of the State University identified the boy, "botany" imbeciles and recommended to transfer him to a correctional school.

This episode has sunk into the soul of the child and determined his future profession.

As a former psychology professor has tested a long-standing test, commented as follows: "For the adequacy of the test results need to keep challenging one condition: that the drafters of the questionnaires and test were at least as smart as tested"

Кирилл Сызранский 11.04.2012 01:43

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Сообщение от artcol; 2065211"
Scientific Committee of the State University identified the boy , " botany " imbeciles and recommended to transfer him to a correctional school .

And Einstein , too, some of the school uchetelya considered for the mentally retarded , and it was not a scoop , and Germany the end of XIX century.

Yavot just do not understand , but what surprised you , then?
Themselves in the school did not go to school?

манна 11.04.2012 01:47

artcol, is interesting . But what have the scoop , sir? Last week, the child tested (at a reception in 1klass ), one of our forumchanki.Test : Arrange the pictures in order and tell me. Pictures: one bird, two birds, a nest with eggs, nestlings . How to "properly" , I hope you can guess . The child told the next version : Once upon a two birds made ​​a nest , fledglings appeared , a little bird flew away for a meal . Agree, too, version, logical . But from the point of view, testing is not pravilnaya.My the last year before entering school this garbage doing.

artcol 11.04.2012 01:59

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Сообщение от manna (Сообщение 2065261)
artcol, is interesting . But what have the scoop , sir? Last week, the child tested (at a reception in 1klass ), one of our forumchanki.Test : Arrange the pictures in order and tell me. Pictures: one bird, two birds, a nest with eggs, nestlings . How to "properly" , I hope you can guess . The child told the next version : Once upon a two birds made ​​a nest , fledglings appeared , a little bird flew away for a meal . Agree, too, version, logical . But from the point of view, testing is not pravilnaya.My all of last year , before going to school doing this garbage .

What and speech.
Scoop - more emotional , of course. As it's name?

Variant of the child "more " than the so-called "correct". How do you explain this situation the child?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2065231)
I just do not understand , but what surprised you , then?
Themselves in the school did not learn ?

Studied , of course, is not particularly surprising . Just very much clearly stated. Arhetipika wisdom , so to speak <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 11.04.2012 02:05

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065281)
Arhetipika wisdom, so to speak <! - ~ 7 ~ ->


From ynternetov its scoop, wisdom?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Do not worry, you will be plenty of opportunities ahead of her encounter firsthand, in real life ...
<! - 6 ~ ~ ->

Hehe , how do you like to ascribe to. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

artcol 11.04.2012 02:06

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2065301)
From ynternetov its scoop , wisdom ? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Do not worry, you will be plenty of opportunities ahead of her encounter firsthand , in real life ... <! - 6 ~ ~ ->
Hehe , how do you like to ascribe to . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And why deal with it ? To leave a bump on his forehead ? In memory of the meeting <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Transferring output in May will benefit the Russians <! - 6 ~ ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 11.04.2012 02:20

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065311)
And why deal with it?

Do you have children, lead them to school and face.


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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065311)
To leave a bump on his forehead?


Cones, believe me, you will have a lot of ...
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

K-Maler 11.04.2012 02:24

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Сообщение от manna (Сообщение 2065261)
before entering school this garbage doing.



And what about the issue than an apple is different from the plum?
 

you

artcol 11.04.2012 02:24

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2065361)
Do you have children, lead them to school and face.

Cones, believe me, you will have a lot of ...
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Well, what you are straight so categorical.
Even shansika not leave <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

K-Maler 11.04.2012 02:30

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065211)
tough one condition: that the drafters of the questionnaires and test were at least no more stupid test "


This condition is impossible.

Кирилл Сызранский 11.04.2012 02:32

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065401)
Well, what you are straight so categorical.

I have experience.


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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2065401)
Do not leave shansika <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Not to rush fails.
Moreover, after 4 years old will still trenchant.

Taste the full measure.

artcol 11.04.2012 02:33

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2065391)
What about the question, what an apple is different from the plum?
 

you

And what are the options?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2065451)
I have experience.

Not to rush fails.
Moreover, after 4 years old will still trenchant.

Taste the full measure.

Let's see <! - 6 ~ ~ -> I love this thing - slip <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

манна 11.04.2012 02:35

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Сообщение от artcol; 2065281"
What and speech.
Scoop - more emotional , of course. As it's name?

Variant of the child "more " than the so-called "correct". How do you explain this situation the child ?

Scoop it from your point of view, emotional. And in terms of school psychologists ( and we have in school enrollment , it was their final word , in addition to my contributions) , this is how the west. Their standards .
Child ( her ), I did not explain anything at all . Since the He had an example before his eyes , as mum and dad were arguing which option is correct. Half of the tests - mixed . Where it was possible to identify the only correct answer, he explained why.
And in fact , from personal experience, these tests are simply a tool to weed out undesirables . Not children, not suitable parents. My child has in the past year, the load was 2 times more than now in first grade. Plus , my 90 trustees of the fund in tys.vznosa shkoly.Otnositelno not large in comparison with nearby top.gos.shkolami (from 150 to 300 thousand rubles )

artcol 11.04.2012 02:35

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2065431)
This condition is not feasible .

All doable , if the problem correctly formulated and delivered.

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Сообщение от manna (Сообщение 2065481)
Scoop it from your point of view, emotional. And in terms of school psychologists ( and we have in school enrollment , it was their final word , in addition to my contributions) , this is how the west. Their standards .
Child ( her ), I did not explain anything at all . Since the He had an example before his eyes , as mum and dad were arguing which option is correct. Half of the tests - mixed . Where it was possible to identify the only correct answer, he explained why.
And in fact , from personal experience, these tests are simply a tool to weed out undesirables . Not children, not suitable parents. My child has in the past year, the load was 2 times more than now in first grade. Plus , my 90 trustees of the fund in tys.vznosa shkoly.Otnositelno not large in comparison with nearby top.gos.shkolami (from 150 to 300 thousand rubles )

Education as a business? This is so liberal <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

But as I understand it more difficult to Msc in these matters than in the province.

манна 11.04.2012 02:50

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Сообщение от artcol; 2065491"
But as I understand it more difficult to Msc in these matters than in the province.

Yes, as you say. More difficult when the choice is. I initially could not determine state. or private . In the agency even contacted . For monitoring available (with TZ transport accessibility ) schools . Well maybe I'm so serious about this issue came up . But as a result , the child learns to where I wanted. In gos.shkole , good , in which there are no " show-off ."
When there is no choice , no problems . Go wherever taken.


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