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Valerit 18.12.2011 16:36

For the Russian obscenities in Estonia fined
 
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An elderly woman called the chairman of the partnership, to clarify the question of rent, and I heard this tirade: "What are you, you fool, do you want? Insane, debility, I'm talking to you I do not. Because I seek a multi-million loan, and you ask me such little things! " Offended woman turned to the constable, and heard the answer: "go to court!"
Another woman also was cursed, but in this case, the mat was used. The woman also wrote a statement to the police, and abused her lady was summoned to the office and issued a warning. "She was told that for the first time a penalty will not write, but if the situation persists, it would have to pay 600 euros!" - Tells the victim.
She notes that all the curses, except one, were obscene. "The last word was" asshole. "Policeman, I remember, drove his finger along the lines of my statement and say this, this, this and that - to us, and here it is (" bitch ") - in court!" - Says the lady.
It turns out that the police have a graduation, for which words take a penalty, and for what - just go to court? "According to my information, there is no such list, which oaths and to what extent an insult to a man - says a spokesperson for the Department Pyhyaskoy Prefectural Police and Border Guard Mihkel Lloyd. - Harassment - a very subjective and personal phenomenon, and have done so should take it" .
With regard to these two cases, the press secretary said that every crime - are different, and the approach to them is different.
It is interesting here is that: without a difference, one obscene word you inveigh against a person or Be creative, forming the five well-known obscene words in the three-story structure - all the same for the first time vynesut a warning and a second penalty will be discharged. So, it turns out, it is cheaper to throw out all the resentment so at a time, not to get money and then punished.

Full article - in the weekly "MK-Estonia".

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Russian language in Estonia is not an official language (Constitution of the Republic of Estonia, § 6).

How to tie a penalty with the Constitution?




Valerit 18.12.2011 16:53

Russian language in Estonia is not an official language (Constitution of the Republic of Estonia, § 6).

How to tie a penalty with the Constitution?




Кирилл Сызранский 18.12.2011 17:08

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Сообщение от Valerit (Сообщение 1893491)
For the Russian obscenities in Estonia fined

Wild people!

We have spoken obscenities.
:D>

NATA NOVA 18.12.2011 18:02

Valerit, of the crown were a year ago, no?

Ochren interesting topic ;)> ...

Valerit 18.12.2011 19:53

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1893621)
crown were a year ago, is not it?

Many believe the old crowns.
Then transferred to evro.Trudno used.

zarajara 18.12.2011 21:18

Fined only for Russian obscenities, or for anyone?
:D>

NATA NOVA 18.12.2011 22:04

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Сообщение от Valerit (Сообщение 1893491)
but if the situation persists, it would have to pay 600 euros! "

so € 600 fine or 600 euros?

Valerit 18.12.2011 22:12

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 1893971)
penalty only for Russian obscenities, or for any?

By Estonian and may not swear as follows.
No capacious words.
They used obscene language in Russian, adding to the Estonian language.

As far as I know and how to Finnish is not possible.

This article has been written about the cases of Russian obscenities.

Santa 19.12.2011 03:04

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Сообщение от Valerit (Сообщение 1894011)
They used obscene language in Russian, adding to the Estonian speech.

In the Czech Republic have heard this - the Czechs mutter on his own, inserting Russian Math.
This symbiosis is very funny to perceived Russian ear - gibberish (with all due respect to the Czechs), interspersed with our own, home :D>

sur 19.12.2011 05:28

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Сообщение от Santa; 1894301"
in the Czech Republic have heard this - the Czechs mutter on his own, inserting Russian obscenities .

I heard this played by the Vietnamese. :)> Actually , I would not hear any inclusions in the Vietnamese Russian speech , if the speakers themselves suddenly giggled and looked at each other and not zagovorschetski not stare at me . Seeing their reaction, I had to answer was staring at them.
-Do we curse in Russian , he asked me to Wu Wang Tam ( Vietnamese student with me in one group) . :)>
- Nothing, nothing , go on about ..- told them I really did not notice any spots in Russian in Vietnam speech abruptly . :)>

Сергей Дородный 19.12.2011 11:36

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Сообщение от Valerit (Сообщение 1894011)
According to Estonian and may not swear how to.


Cursed man as follows -

But he was fine - so swear should not be.

Мимопроходил 19.12.2011 11:41

In Dovlatov in "Ours" on non-standard expressions, expressive Russian has a wonderful epizodik :

but maternal grandfather has a very tough -minded . Even in the Caucasus , he was considered a violent man. His wife and children trembled at his gaze.
If something is irritating his grandfather, he frowned and exclaimed in a low voice :
- ABANAMAT !
This mysterious word literally paralyzed the others. Inspired them to a mystical horror .
- ABANAMAT ! - Exclaimed the old man.
And , the house became quiet.
Meaning of the word mother never learned about . I also could not understand what that word means . And when he entered the university , I suddenly realized . The mothers did not explain . Why? ..
:)>

zarajara 19.12.2011 18:37

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 1894661)
I Dovlatov in "Ours" on non-standard expressions, expressive Russian has a wonderful epizodik :

[I] but maternal grandfather has a very tough -minded . Even in the Caucasus , he was considered a violent man. His wife and children trembled at his gaze.
If something is irritating his grandfather, he frowned and exclaimed in a low voice :
- ABANAMAT !

Yeah, I said , this episode in Dovlatov.
However, there is a mat and the Armenians and the Georgians , the other Caucasian people - I do not know , but I think it is. And the mat is not simple, but quite difficult. But it is not used as just strong language in conversation. After it usually starts with a serious disassembly unpredictable and often tragic finale.

Victor_art 19.12.2011 19:22

Zadornov on Russian material
 
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Here is what Michael Zadornov on Russian material: :)>

Michael Zadornov obscene words do not swear for many years. A recently found more proof of the fact that it is very rightly so. Because the Russian swear words were originally quite different, meaning light and served as a kind of talisman. And turn them into dirty expletives - is unnatural and illogical.

- The more I study the history of our forefathers, the pagan, the better relate to them. They worshiped one god Rod and not to sacrifice any animals, let alone humans. They had a pure Vedic (hence the word "manifest") philosophy, they revered nature as the main manifestation of God on earth.

In general, "paganism" - a very good word. It means "I zychu nature - that is," I am voicing nature. "But then, our ancestors caught in the" PR "of the West, have betrayed this philosophy. Of the believers and freethinkers they have become stagnant and religious. Retain elements of the former wisdom only Russian. True, we do not always notice this wisdom, and sometimes distorts beyond recognition. That's happened and with the mat.

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- Matt you think - a part of past wisdom?

- Not in the sense that it is now. A few millennia ago, the god, creator, had a few names: God, Family, Svarog, grant-god (even in today's prayer is left: "Give us this day ")... Another of the names of the Creator - Ebun. Sorry, but this is a decent name for the time. And away went the word "fucking count" - the vibrations Ebun created the world. Today, quantum physicists have confirmed that the universe is due to the explosion of a nuclear reaction, wave propagation, vibrations and vibrations. The last word pronounced as our ancestors' vebratsiya. " They intuitively know about the wave nature of a world.

Hence, too, went the other pagan word, preserving its meaning to our days: "prayer" or "prayer Ebunu." And those who were created when vibrations were patronymic - Ivan ebich, Oleg-ebich, Nicola ebna. The word "child" of the same origin, but in ancient times it was uttered long - "pereebenok" ... By the way, the Arabs, who once took over many of our words because of lack of development in their own languages, first name denotes a part "b.". Abdurahman Hassan ibn Khattab, or, in Russian, old-Khattab ebich ...

Even rude, that we are now releasing to the mother's abuser, at the source meant his desire to extend the order. It was a very fair words, and they never were seen as pagan profanity.

- The offensive plenty of other words ...

- The most flagrant obscene word, we denote the female reproductive organs. Do you know how it was formed? I was Ebuna two manifestations: the male energy, called "en", and women - "ki." "An 'then passed into the pronoun" he ", as well as many names - John, Jean, Johann ... A" ki "in conjunction with the ancient word" yes "(the law) and" g "(sound cutter, cut out because the laws on the rocks) means "giving life". Or "kizda." But later, a letter has changed, and it became a dirty word. Keep in mind that if you pull too swear, can mitigate the expression and say, for example, "not kizdi!" Although better, of course, these words do not say at all.

- And where did you have this information?

- Every little helps. I travel a lot, talking with interesting people, I read - for example, the remarkable book by Sergei Alexeyev, who recommend to anyone who wants to hear the native language, I get e-mail messages from enthusiasts who study the nature of words. In particular, it revealed to me a lot with the filing of "archeology" of Russian Konstantin Lipsky.

- At what point does "good" words were considered to be abusive?

- With the advent of Christianity, all that was associated with the philosophy of natural history, have tried to delete from the language as well as to present itself paganism obscurantism. Among those most swear words. To do this they attributed to the most terrible "sin": that they brought us the Tatars. And in Russia there was nothing worse than that associated with the Tatar-Mongol yoke. And these words have lost meaning amulet, becoming a monstrous foul language. But the Tatars for insulting the mothers to chop off hands and heads.

And the fact that the matrix was originally a talisman, and shows a different meaning of the word, which is used in our time - a mattress that trail on the floor when doing gymnastics or acrobatics. Mat, mat, designed to protect the athlete from injury!

The name of the pagan holiday of Ivan Kupala is derived from the word "fuck", meaning light, and charitable actions that serve fertility.

But today all of these words listed as vermin space, and the people who utter them, attached themselves to this space. Therefore, I am by no means a call to use profanity. Their value they have lost a talisman after they began to use the right and left. Amulets can not say often. So my theory is interesting only as a museum piece.

However, there is a slight nuance. If you use these words only in extreme and exceptional situations, they can still serve as amulets. No wonder the war is always foul. And if a woman who had hitherto made use of swear words, getting into an accident, swears that he should not have dreamed nedopohmelivshemusya janitor, she often stays alive and unhurt


Кирилл Сызранский 19.12.2011 20:59

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Сообщение от Victor_art (Сообщение 1895121)
Here is what Michael Zadornov ...

I recalled the gibberish Zadornov this:




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