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Artdealer 10.11.2011 12:59

Article about investing in art at RBC
 
http://top.rbc.ru/economics/10/11/2011/624299.shtml

Well that's why, when writing about art , one must tell a story about the filth antiques ? How is tired of this PR contemporary art.
It is extremely strange message Gelman - that auctions are the guarantors of authenticity as opposed to galleries. On the contrary, auctions must sell what they produce , and serious galleries, valuing his reputation, carefully picked works of art for sale, and return to work in the gallery, much easier than at auction .
In addition to the art may be invested without knowing it , and it does not have to like it. It has long been clearly established who and how much is absolutely clear who and how will grow in value.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2011 13:57

Here this need for investors to remember:
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" In general, the basic principle of investing in art comes down to what you have to buy only what you like , and only the best of what you can afford. Do not try to be just an investor, become a collector, then your investment will be successful in any event "- summarized AM Sitnina .

Artdealer 10.11.2011 15:26

no, it's not logical.
This is the same, that invest in stocks only those companies that enjoy)))) I like the Pepsi-Cola, not Coca-Cola, will be invested in Pepsi))) so the market would be cool cores)))

Vladimir 10.11.2011 15:26

Article badly wrong (ugly logic to fit the overall theme).
Too bad that was published at RBC - many people will be misinformed.
In terms of - just "TV" of some kind.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2011 15:28

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Сообщение от Artdealer (Сообщение 1841211)
no, it's not logical.

Well, and how to buy neponravivshuyusya thing?
:)>

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Сообщение от Artdealer (Сообщение 1841211)
invest in shares of only those companies

With stocks can not compare - nothing about it I do not know at all.

Artdealer 10.11.2011 15:44

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1841231"
Well, and how to buy neponravivshuyusya thing ?

Let's say you do not like Picasso. But who's to say that this is a bad investment? or do not like you Rayonism Larionov - is also a bad investment?

But like you but Nikas Safronov (just really like) - it is a good investment?

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2011 15:50

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Let's say you do not like Picasso. But who's to say that this is a bad investment? or do not like you Rayonism Larionov - is also a bad investment ?

These things can not be allowed .
 :)>
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Сообщение от Artdealer; 1841261"
And here you like but Nikas Safronov (just enjoy )

And so this is all the more.
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Not very examples: people who love Nikas Safronov , and investment in art is not engaged, they write songs about it and they sing:

iside 10.11.2011 17:21

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Too bad that was published at RBC - many people will be misinformed . In terms of - just "TV" some

According to its liquid composition sluggish article reminded obychnuyuyu advertising. Sotheby's advertised and Art Finance, as a reliable firm to invest in art , as well as protection against counterfeiting. Is not entirely clear as there was Gelman, but perhaps specifically added it as a blind .
Marina Sitnina + "Art Finance" in the aggregate mentioned 5 times ( once as Sitina )
Mikhail Kamensky, Sotheby + mentioned 4 times
Gelman (once as Galman ) a total of 6 times


Hmm , maybe advertising as an art Gelman Advisory and Finance Art and Sotheby's contrary to dilute the material. :)>

artcol 10.11.2011 17:33

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Сообщение от Artdealer (Сообщение 1841261)
Let's say you do not like Picasso. But who's to say that this is a bad investment? or do not like you Rayonism Larionov - is also a bad investment?

But like you but Nikas Safronov (just really like) - it is a good investment ?

Cyril has a true view of the need to be sure of things , and to do it , as necessary , no not a sufficient condition to enjoy yourself.

Threat in the article itself , of course , there is a robust grain.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2011 17:49

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Сообщение от iside; 1841341"
and maybe advertising as an art Gelman Advisory

Not , why Gelman some extra advertising, and so he " byword ".
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Kirill , right view is to be sure of things , and to do it , as necessary , no no sufficient condition to enjoy yourself.

And how will you buy neponravivsheesya you * Listen advisers ? They nasovetuyut ...
Most have to " enter " and therefore all investors eventually grow into experts and even specialists with impeccable taste, a wonderful feeling and a strong sense of anticipation.
 In our market are many such examples .

iside 10.11.2011 18:21

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1841381"
No , why Gelman some extra advertising, and so he " byword "

Is also true. And suddenly it unwind in conjunction with Sotheby's as a future director of Russian Contemporary :)>
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1841381"
himself should " enter "

And this is the first rule of investment funds: invest only in one sector, which are good . Therefore, there can be no situation in investing in Nikas , although it is a quite incredible record [/URL], by the way, at Sotheby's. :D>

artcol 10.11.2011 18:30

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1841451)
That's true too . And suddenly it unwind in conjunction with Sotheby's as a future director of Russian Contemporary :)>

And this is the first rule of investment funds: invest only in one sector, which are good . Therefore, there can be no situation in investing in Nikas , although it is a quite incredible record[/URL], by the way, at Sotheby's. :D>

Well, someone has already invested he

iside 10.11.2011 18:39

artcol, Tin and gloom ....It sold Gysin and computer picture painted by the same Safronov. It turns out that the artist drew them seem to be himself . But can we attribute this work to a work of art? Can I call this picture a fake ? :D>

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Minister of Internal Affairs of Russia Andrei Dunaev, paid for the portrait of Putin Nikas written two thousand dollars
Something cheap Putin of some kind. :rolleyes:>

artcol 10.11.2011 18:53

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1841501)
artcol, Tin and gloom ....It sold Gysin and computer picture painted by the same Safronov. It turns out that the artist drew them seem to be himself . But can we attribute this work to a work of art? Can I call this picture a fake ? :D>


Something cheap Putin of some kind. :rolleyes:>

The story began with the fact that Dunaeva burned house, and it was his portrait painted by the Great Nikas GGG And when the insurance experts evaluated the affected property , the masterpiece they appreciated very cheap , much cheaper than paying for it Dunaev (there already was a substantial amount , not 2 , etc.). When Dunaev indignant about such a low rating , then told him about the technology of production ( not a masterpiece burned to the ground ). Dunaev oserchal and ran the rest of the masterpieces to take back . And did not burn down a house - prices would grow and grow on the creation of Nikas , and would buy all sorts of further Dunayev . And now to buy , I know of .

mihailovoh 11.11.2011 09:34

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Сообщение от Artdealer (Сообщение 1841211)
does not , it is not logical . This is the same , that invest in stocks only those companies that enjoy ))) ) I like the Pepsi-Cola, not Coca-Cola, will be invested in Pepsi))) so the market would be cool living )))

 In Bafed and makes life - buys to.chto like - us would be Bafedami
Buy to.chto vygodno.udel dillerov.galleristov professionals is their job and they do not necessarily love to.chto like customers.
If there is a "taste" , and will be beneficial not without investitsii.konechno oshibok.dlya it all and learn all my life.


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