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bold 25.06.2008 14:51

A pair of paintings "Sea"
 
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Good day!
Please help us to evaluate paintings. Seascape (day and night). These paintings from the collection sovetstskogo diplomat, who acquired them in the 50 years in the antique shop as a school Aivazovsky. I bought paintings to decorate the interior and investing money, because it takes dignitaries. Unfortunately, no signature. I have consulted with experts about the paintings, they attributed as kon.19-beg. 20c., A professional painting. Good condition.

nikola 25.06.2008 15:35

To properly assess the need to collect pictures of them
    complete information. The name of the author, that it is shown
    (Perhaps this is the legendary ships or historical event)
    name of the diplomat, too, can affect. Artistic value
    picture does not seem to have, or it is not significant.
    Sales price determines the gallery, but they mean to you
    will cost just a few. Without specific authority
    You can even Gauguin did not manage to sell more than 20-30%of real
   value.

Konstantin 25.06.2008 16:00

You have not specified the size.
But if these rabrty no less than 30x40 cm and real 19 century.
It cost $ 7000-8000.

LCR 25.06.2008 17:28

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 11036)
No specific authority
    You can even Gauguin did not manage to sell more than 20-30%of real
   value.

Well, that's a pipe, not intimidate the customer, sir:)
If he has a Gauguin, everything is very simple - it comes in contact in a primary auction and the money in a hat, or rather on the bank account: p

Meister 25.06.2008 18:17

LCR, 1. To sell to work with impeccable provenance no authority and no need to close, even to understand the artist's works do not, well, just to see how a picture can be worth it.

fross 25.06.2008 19:03

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 11186)
LCR,, to understand how a picture can cost.

And what about the price and the primary auction house to inflate can?

Meister 25.06.2008 19:07

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 11236)
And what about the price and the primary auction house to inflate can?

I do not think they are interested to sell as dearly as possible. But better to be in the know than not?

fross 25.06.2008 19:11

be aware of the price of something than you possess
 
Certainly better, but it's hardly possible before the end of auction. Moreover, and in one or the other way. Or is it still possible? And if so, how exactly?

LCR 25.06.2008 19:34

Cook, frossinka and Master,

Disputes can arise only at the reserve price, but that - in theory, in practice, as the Master.

Meister 25.06.2008 19:36

See, each work is a market price, which is determined largely on the basis of sales at auction, the significance of the artist, his works are available on the market and numerous other factors. But the auction sale can not be the sole criterion for determining the prices of similar work, because sometimes it is too high, and sometimes the opposite is understated. And, if the work is not sold at auction, this does not mean that it is not worth the money. That's why I say it's better to be in the know.

LCR 25.06.2008 19:43

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 11296)
See, each work is the market price, which is determined largely on the basis of sales at auction, the significance of the artist, his works are available on the market and numerous other factors. But the auction sale can not be the sole criterion for determining the prices of similar work, because sometimes it is too high, and sometimes the opposite is understated. And, if the work is not sold at auction, this does not mean that it is not worth the money. That's why I say it's better to be in the know.


All right, but all the same auction price is extremely important, otherwise nobody would have practiced this a bit naive, but nevertheless have to think, an effective method of promotion - to put the work up for auction, to ensure team-mates, who raise their price, and buy it on the attic, in order to create a precedent for the auction;)

fross 25.06.2008 19:52

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 11306)
All right, but all the same auction price is extremely important, otherwise nobody would have practiced this a bit naive, but nevertheless have to think, an effective method of promotion - to put the work up for auction, to ensure team-mates, who raise the price and buy it on the attic, in order to create a precedent for the auction;)

Looks like exchange trades. Only KomMissia auctions, it is far higher. And yet at the peak price on the stock exchange usually throw all the papers of the issuer and buy only when the peak is passed and the collapse starts. What works of art? Reset all because there is no quick result?

LCR 25.06.2008 19:58

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 11316)
It looks like a stock trades. Only KomMissia auctions, it is far higher. And yet at the peak price on the stock exchange usually throw all the papers of the issuer and buy only when the peak is passed and the collapse starts. What works of art? Reset all after quickly fail?

Hahahahaha, very even correctly observed, bravo, Froska:)

Only after all of the stock exchange is very low-liquid shares - just those I love most.

But the paintings and the market is much smaller than the shares at the very lousy or low-liquidity campaign, so that the panic is much more difficult to organize, no?

fross 25.06.2008 20:07

True
 
But not because the paintings less, but because the market is closed and the panic no one will know. Regulators do not.

bold 26.06.2008 15:53

Lord, and could not return to the question about specific scenes. I would be very grateful for opinions on the merits


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