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Allena 26.12.2008 14:25

I propose to create a new partition
 
At the forum often asked to assist in the attribution and evaluation of the picture. I propose to create a separate partition on the main forum page and call it "Who is the author and how much can cost" because it is so often framed the question.

In this section as the shape /form /questionnaire for the very first message threads hang that list of issues which Eugene did. To people immediately fit into the appropriate fields that he was aware of the picture, and placed the required photo.

Thus a novice, before you ask, even though the ruler now measure up if the documents are not, finger rubs (watercolor or reproduction) and will give everything on the Provenance knows (from his aunt got at the flea market, bought, etc.:). Perhaps I, ever the same question is addressed, but provenance is outstanding: D: painting (an unbelievably beautiful landscape, in my view, XIX c., wood /oil) discovered 50 years ago in a remote village as coasters kettle with hundred Grandma.

And incidentally, the same way will be immediately cut off at least part of dishonest users forum, have fun at the expense of desire.

Who thinks about this?

SergeiSK 26.12.2008 14:57

Allena,
Logical. But the section "Prices, assessment already exists. Maybe just rename this section "Who is the author and how much it costs."?

Allena 26.12.2008 15:21

SergeiSK, perhaps you're right. But my suggestion about the shape /form is preserved. The more formalized the request will be in this section, including a more precise answer, I think you can give.

SergeiSK 26.12.2008 15:31

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166256)
my suggestion about the shape /form stored

This should be mandatory, will be much easier to understand.

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166116)
amazingly beautiful landscape, in my view, XIX c., wood /oil) discovered 50 years ago in a remote village as coasters kettle with a hundred Grandma.

Do not want to show? Just yesterday on TV looked a report about the exhibition in Moscow works Russian village naive. I liked very much, but still very dear to me Sawa Yamshchikov commented.

Allena 26.12.2008 15:34

Not in Moscow, and in the Tretyakov Gallery, perhaps?
http://artinvestment.ru/news/exhibit...slawl_art.html

But I have not rustic naive, but genuine classic. Maybe I'll show you when.

antip 26.12.2008 15:37

Who thinks about this?

Soglasen.Edinstvennoe embarrassed that the cost of items often
prompted already very subjective and lack of coordination, especially
For works of artists unknown and poorly studied.
If you argue correctly and fairly is the subject of Fine Arts must
evaluated in terms of professional art history,
its freshness and originality, emotional impact, svoebraznosti
technique and t.d.Kak said well-known N. Nesterov:
"I do not care what is shown on the picture to me is important as it is done." Rate professionally, here on the forum, looking at
reproduction is very difficult or impossible, except perhaps
only thing is scheduled (pencil, pen). And yet there is often
estimated with the raid or on grounds of provenance, sonority
name or identity, regalia and party affiliation.
I fully agree with our authoritative forumistkoy Liana
(where she, incidentally zapropostilas?), for Gerasimov.
There is nothing to the outstanding work snapping up like hot cakes
at unbelievable tsenam.Sprashivaetsya, and who the buyer, whether
his own face? No! A person subjected to the herd instinct, without
spiritual "folds" in the mortal body, managed dubious and false authorities easily lie and barbarism.
And some "limited contingent" these bad feeding, using
delitanstvom and ignorance of our "individual" citizens.



 
reproduction

SergeiSK 26.12.2008 15:44

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166286)
Not in the Moscow region and in the Tretyakov Gallery, perhaps?

Exactly! This I misled, Yamshchikova heard:)

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166286)
natural classics

Or maybe it is you thing, which since the war with Napoleon in the village preserved? Very curious ...

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2008 15:45

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166286)
Not in the Moscow region and in the Tretyakov Gallery, perhaps?

And not naive there, and provincial art.

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 166316)
I fully agree with our authoritative forumistkoy Liana
(where she, incidentally zapropostilas?), for Gerasimov.

Rudeness some participants could not stand it, went to the forum.

Allena 26.12.2008 15:46

I agree with you, antip. On the other hand, one also does not require precise figures. Usually ask for help with the attribution and an estimate. My proposal is aimed at formalizing the query

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 166346)
Maybe this is you thing, which since the war with Napoleon in the village preserved?

Interesting idea, thanks. No, it is certainly not the West. School definitely Russian. But the plot - the brook, shaded by trees, and in the distance, too, under the trees, white cottages with thatched roofs. As a show.

SergeiSK 26.12.2008 15:53

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 166316)
I fully agree with our authoritative forumistkoy Liana
(where she, incidentally zapropostilas?), for Gerasimov.
There is nothing to the outstanding work snapping up like hot cakes
at unbelievable tsenam.Sprashivaetsya, and who the buyer, whether
his own face? No! A person subjected to the herd instinct, without
spiritual "folds" in the mortal body, managed by dubious and false authorities easily lie and barbarism.

Similarly, "bandwagon", all rushed to buy up non-conformists and really doubtful contemporary authors, as much as prices have soared to the heavens. So follow your words we have two herds, though going in different directions? Or one flock "spiritual" and the other not? But anyway, any leader has led, and managed by a shepherd.

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 166316)
If you argue correctly and fairly then the object must IZO
evaluated in terms of professional art history,
its freshness and originality, emotional impact, svoebraznosti
equipment performance

And for this to be treated in the State Tretyakov Gallery, RM, Grabar, ArtKonsalting ... Here is a virtual and visual assessment.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2008 15:55

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166376)
creek, shaded by trees, and in the distance, too, under the trees, white cottages with thatched roofs.

South of Russia and Little Russia.

antip 26.12.2008 16:21

And for this to be treated in the State Tretyakov Gallery, RM, Grabar, ArtKonsalting ... (SergeiSK)

Who and where is it exactly you noticed and witty.
These agencies can only give an opinion on the authenticity
and authorship, in asserting their part assessment of artistic value can be, and doubt and not prinimat.Tam also learned
money pump.

SergeiSK 26.12.2008 16:23

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 166516)
They also learned
money pump.

With this 100%agree! :)

Allena 26.12.2008 16:29

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 166446)
South Russia and Little Russia.

I doubt it, and in fact in another. Too trees much for Little Russia, and the South of Russia as something not very similar. But of these two options, perhaps closer still Malorossiya. The work is very small, I did not measure it, but where a 13 x 18. In any case, selling is not going to - very beautiful, and memorable.

artcol 26.12.2008 16:38

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166286)
Not in Moscow, and in the Tretyakov Gallery, perhaps?
http://artinvestment.ru/news/exhibit...slawl_art.html

What a pity we did not turn out to get to the exhibition.


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