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Илларион2011 09.02.2011 23:54

Aivazovsky to assess
 
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redbor 10.02.2011 11:03

'd Never thought it was Ivan Aivazovsky could well draw.

But against the securities with the seals do not trample, even though they are Ukrainian.

It remains only to multiply the square pattern on the cost of 1 square centimeter

(For works by Aivazovsky, it was like $ 1000?)

Toinen 10.02.2011 11:15

redbor, in the expert opinion, (that of excise stamps for alcohol products) is written that the painting may belong to the artist studio I. Aivazovsky.

Евгений 10.02.2011 11:16

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Сообщение от "Illarion2011 (Сообщение 1519991)
Dear appreciate danuyu now

Probably nothing less than to "Russian Seasons" http://artinvestment.ru/galleries/ru....html?gl=435&m []=1076800 and the amount and time, almost one ..

serg_str 10.02.2011 11:23

If you sell the painting in the Ukraine, then maybe this is also sufficient. Aivazovsky often counterfeited and full of confidence now must pass to a study somewhere else (Grabar, Russian Museum, Tretyakov Gallery, etc.).
Judging by the pictures, so absolute confidence in the authorship of Aivazovsky's not. I would like more information about the "sketchy preparatory drawings. Would look at the signature ...
Lead-zinc oxide in Aivazovsky extremely rare, as she Lugin wrote in his book "The technology and expertise paintings Ivan Aivazovsky.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2011 11:26

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Сообщение от Toinen; 1520691"
in the expert opinion, (that of excise stamps for alcohol products) is written

And in the conclusion of the National Museum. Ivan Aivazovsky written:
Цитата:

visual examination conducted on the submitted photograph of the painting (total hp front side before and after restoration) and macro sites with the inscription, signed and dated.

redbor 10.02.2011 11:39

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Сообщение от Toinen; 1520691"
in the expert opinion, (that of excise stamps for alcohol products) is written that the painting may belong to the artist studio Ivan Aivazovsky.

Or maybe not belong?
 Signed a Aivazovsky '. Dumb some of Kiev, this "expertise". Where such offer?
what have the Russian Museum.
In general - and other acts, for some reason, is not impressive.
Check "for lice" or what?

Toinen 10.02.2011 11:46

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1520751)
And in the conclusion of the National Museum. Ivan Aivazovsky written:

Quote:
A visual examination conducted on the submitted photograph of the painting (the general form of the front side before and after restoration) and macro sites with the inscription, signed and dated.

I'm shocked! Luckily, although the photographs conduct an examination, not by hearsay!

redbor 10.02.2011 11:52

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Сообщение от serg_str (Сообщение 1520731)
Lead-zinc oxide in Aivazovsky extremely rare, as she Lugin wrote in his book" The technology and expertise of painting IKAyvazovsky ".

" of white pigments Painting IKAyvazovsky dominates white lead, are present in almost all works of the artist. There was no single case of use in the original paint layers of any other whitewash. "
 IMHO. Just check the reaction to such examination.
In CMC-though and write a wonderful review, but then themselves, and do not insist on fidelity judgments.
Therefore there is no signature, as usual - only Vakulenko.
Next - work on the bugs. That is, to assist the seller
" At the same time, some pigments are attributed to Ivan Aivazovsky, were not detected, it is - lead-zinc white, "

Игорь Гурьев 10.02.2011 14:28

In my opinion, the picture is stylistically related to the late 19 th century.

Written as a tumble for Aivazovsky, some loosening of the composition (which is not peculiar to him).


What is Aivazovsky - I personally do not believe I can.

mark4445 10.02.2011 14:41

Where to read that the world is walking around 60.000 "works by Aivazovsky, but really they were written in the area of 6.000 jobs.
Percentage of what it is not it is huge, even with "reputable" papers.
:)

мистер-у 10.02.2011 18:52

Without entering timing signed Goldovsky, center Grabar-Ignatova and V. Petrov, work no-go and appreciate it is not possible.

Wladzislaw 10.02.2011 21:57

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Сообщение от Mister-y (Сообщение 1521591)
Without entering timing signed Goldovsky, center Grabar-Ignatova and V. Petrov, work no-go and appreciate it is not possible.

Comrade Y, the question arises, and whether there is life outside of Petrov?

For example, in Zhukovsky, Khrutsky or Byalynitsky-Birula I will have no questions at the conclusion Nat. Hood. Museum of Belarus, and I totally would not worry about this view of Ivanov-Petrova. Why Petrov Feodosia better picture? This is, in general, rhetorically. There are eye - look. Least 60 thousand, 6 thousand at least - and straight, all masterpieces.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2011 22:26

[QUOTE="Wladzislaw; 1521731] Why Petrov Feodosia better picture?
[/QUOTE]

Because, at least, that VA Petrov does [FONT="Arial Narrow"]"visual examination of the submitted photograph of the painting"[/FONT], as it does, if
believe in black and white, Feodosia gallery.
:D

Toinen 10.02.2011 22:35

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1521751)
Because, at least, that VA Petrov does "visual examination of the submitted photograph of the painting"


Oh that's for sure!
And because his views may be interested buyers.

And from those presented in this subject examinations smells rotten sparrow.


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