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-   -   Pyotr Konchalovsky (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=1996)

Кирилл Сызранский 13.02.2009 18:26

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 223396)
Kostroma State. combined thin. Museum, Kostroma.

Well, "State "...
Pritenzii to the state.
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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 223386)
Olga, surely nothing can be done??

They refused to work on the murder of 22 thousand Polish officers at Katyn ...

LCR 13.02.2009 18:31

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 223426)
Well, "State "...
Pritenzii to the state.

They refused to work on the murder of 22 thousand Polish officers at Katyn ...

Ironically, I think that individual property claims have a greater chance of success. But you're right, it all came off the field searchlights, unfortunately, now I have no way to do it - and as we would like ...

Кирилл Сызранский 13.02.2009 18:40

LCR, if the time to pay, what then will remain in the Pushkin? The Hermitage?
And with the Russian Tretyakov poryadeyut ...
No, this is not possible, for the rest of the pictures of the stolen property will attract ...
Sci-Fi, you're right.

Eriksson 13.02.2009 18:43

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 223436)
Ironically, I think that individual property claims have a greater chance of success. But you're right, it all came off the field searchlights, unfortunately, now I have no way to do it - and as we would like ...

Grandmother must have relatives, any adequate grandchildren ... It's clear that she was - judging by the photo, "God's dandelion" - to challenge the property will not, but that she had not requested.
Until then it was necessary to diminish the same people! I think that she is happy by the fact that survived (probably in an orphanage!), Lived to be 80 years old and she was even allowed to recall a happy, rich childhood - the daughter of the composer all the same, the very portrait Konchalovsky wrote ... And then - as they say - Face of teybl ...

Кирилл Сызранский 13.02.2009 19:03

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 223456)
rich childhood - the daughter of the composer all the same, the very portrait Konchalovsky wrote ...

Benedict (Feygenzon)
Maxim Benediktovich (1884-1937). He graduated from the Paris Conservatoire in piano and composition with the big gold medal. Member of the Union of Soviet Composers. He was familiar with Mayakovsky, A. Hammer (USA), the second wife of Mikhail Bulgakov. In the house of Mikhail B. Benediktova visited
L. Ruslanova, E. Geltzer and other famous people. He was acquainted with the beginning. Dep. kontrazvedki Arthur Christianovitch Artuzovym (Frauchi).
After the arrest of A. Artuzova, MB was arrested and soon executed under Art. 58 paragraph 10. a, b.

uriart 13.02.2009 19:48

Not necessarily to get expertise in the fund.
Tretyakov Gallery will give you expertise, signed by Ermakova and Gladkova.
And this is perfectly normal!
Ermakova, and is considered an expert in the fund, but this does not mean that it is forbidden to give expert from the Tretyakov Gallery in which it operates.
After Tretyakovka still gives expertise.
My friends did, have expertise in the Tretyakov Gallery. And when I phoned them today in Moscow and asked, I said, why get in the fund, if the same Ermakova and sign and in the fund and the Tretyakov Gallery.
So go for it! Nobody's self-esteem, you do not infringe in any way infringe upon the right fund.
But the adopted daughter of Lydia Ruslanova, Ms. Kryukov, took all the paintings from the Tretyakov Gallery which had been confiscated. When her father, General Kryukov and Ruslanova were imprisoned.
This process was lengthy, but it took all the pictures!

Eriksson 13.02.2009 20:56

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Сообщение от OlgaV (Сообщение 223466)
Liana!
Can poprobvat, provided that the story told by your coincides with the history of the heirs. But I guarantee, unfortunately, I can not give.
And in what serves as Eriksson?

In no. Just information for consideration.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 223446)
LCR, if the time to pay, what then will remain in the Pushkin? The Hermitage?
And with the Russian Tretyakov poryadeyut ...
No, this is not possible, for the rest of the pictures of the stolen property will attract ...
Sci-Fi, you're right.

All remain. Some are not, and those - far away.
Judge for yourself - as the living heirs of the confiscated works in general are aware of what they might belong to? And those who know - unlikely to be able to prove it in court. Looking for documents, an inventory of confiscated property, proof of the illegal repression, rehabilitation ... Lawyers know better how it is difficult ...
If we are the world's largest galleries sue-array themselves among themselves about the abducted during the war (with the government!) What is left to ordinary citizens?

Кирилл Сызранский 13.02.2009 22:05

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Сообщение от OlgaV (Сообщение 223566)
Well, on our actions, even if we all decided to help the site?!

And who decided to help? I somehow have lost the thread? Camilla Maksimovna Benediktova?

Eriksson 13.02.2009 22:23

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 223576)
And who decided to help? I somehow have lost the thread? Camilla Maksimovna Benediktova?

Cyril, you're right! After all, she herself did not ask anyone. And like the relatives were not announced ...
I'm just looking for information on Konchalovsky, stumbled upon this outrage and indignation. I wrote on this forum only in connection with a given topic.
In general, I appreciate all the horrible fact that you share my outrage and so active. If I perebalamutila people, it is quite out of altruistic motives. I do not know - whether alive Camilla Maksimovna, where she is who she is and her relatives. Moreover, 20 years dwell outside of Russia.
But the fact that you all responded to the offensive, from my point of view, the situation is simply great!
But! Everything humanly possible. If someone finds it possible for you (and real) to help this old woman, then - help. Will be reckoned.

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Сообщение от OlgaV (Сообщение 223596)
Cyril!
And what Eriksson called? Or am I mixing up something ...
So I ask, whether we porazmyslist ... whether that ...

Dear OlgaV!
I do not call to anything other than justice.
(see above)

Кирилл Сызранский 13.02.2009 23:47

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 223616)
If I perebalamutila people, it is quite out of altruistic motives.

Properly done, but never learned b another page in its history.
And so, after a portrait by the author, through this girl in the portrait with a terrible and customary for our country's destiny-island and felt hope.


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