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Евгений 26.12.2008 18:01

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 166256)
But my suggestion about the shape /form is preserved. The more formalized the request will be in this section, including a more precise answer, I think it will be possible to give

That's right.

iosif 26.12.2008 19:11

artcol,
in Kostroma, a large permanent exhibition Chestnyakova. Really interesting. But I do not understand what they Repiinym not shared.

artcol 26.12.2008 19:19

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 166866)
artcol,
in Kostroma, a large permanent exhibition Chestnyakova. Really interesting. But I do not understand what they Repiinym not share.

Did not get me and to Kostroma, although it was close ...

They sort of had nothing to share. Chestnyakov was a pupil of Repin in any salon. At the owner of Salon interest does not exist, the salon was closed. Chestnyakov returned to the village of his.
The only thing that Repin not too spoke of the ability Chestnyakova. But on an amateur:)

Кирилл Сызранский 26.12.2008 19:37

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"He dreamed of becoming an artist and enrolled in Repin's studio. Venerable Repin, who admired his unique talent and said that I teach you nothing, only to spoil. Yefim returned to his native village Shabloff, Kologrivskogo County, Kostroma, and devoted his gift of the painter, poet, sculptor. "

antip 26.12.2008 19:40

iosif
in Kostroma .......... interesting.

Iisif about Rassypnove you wrote, showed him raboty.A that audibly
about Irina Rybakovoy.Chto painting where exposed.
It would be news.

artcol 26.12.2008 19:59

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 166906)
"He dreamed of becoming an artist and enrolled in Repin's studio. Venerable Repin, who admired his unique talent and said that I teach you nothing, only to spoil. Yefim returned to his native village Shabloff, Kologrivskogo District, Kostroma, and dedicated his gift of the painter, poet, sculptor. "

Yes, everything is mixed up in my head:) Yes, praised his Repin, but never supported.

iosif 27.12.2008 15:25

artcol,
Work Rybakova seen only in the cabin. Good. In general, there is surprisingly a lot of good artists.
And Chestnyakova - a separate exposition. In my opinion - steam rooms. And it's very cool, because when many were gathered together - it's a different feeling than when the same, but separately.

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antip,
Sorry, your question is not answered you. Well, not scary.
By the way, the exhibition Rassypnova successful. Report-site conference room "Creation" that the Taganka. He came in spite of his "eighty". It was terribly happy "personalke and speeches gathered. Well, we were very happy:)

artcol 28.12.2008 01:37

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 166316)
Who thinks about this?

Soglasen.Edinstvennoe embarrassed that the cost of items often
prompted already very subjective and lack of coordination, especially
For works of artists unknown and poorly studied.
If you argue correctly and fairly is the subject of Fine Arts must
evaluated in terms of professional art history,
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its freshness and originality, emotional impact, svoebraznosti
technique and t.d.Kak said well-known N. Nesterov:
"I do not care what is shown on the picture to me is important as it is done." Rate professionally, here on the forum, looking at
reproduction is very difficult or impossible, except perhaps
only thing is scheduled (pencil, pen). And yet there is often
estimated with the raid or on grounds of provenance, sonority
name or identity, regalia and party affiliation.
I fully agree with our authoritative forumistkoy Liana
(where she, incidentally zapropostilas?), for Gerasimov.
There is nothing to the outstanding work snapping up like hot cakes
at unbelievable tsenam.Sprashivaetsya, and who the buyer, whether
his own face? No! A person subjected to the herd instinct, without
spiritual "folds" in the mortal body, managed dubious and false authorities easily lie and barbarism.
And some "limited contingent" these bad feeding, using
delitanstvom and ignorance of our "individual" citizens.

Karel Capek. About pictures

Like once a day grand opening week of Fine Arts in the newspapers, you receive one of those messages, we encounter more and more frequently. Some collector bought an old painting, whose authenticity was established by experienced experts, yet the picture was a fake, and the collector has suffered a loss amounting to 27 thousand CZK.

By nature I am not zloraden. But, reading the reports deceived collectors paintings famous old masters, I can not escape the feeling that you can express in words: It serves them right! They suffered from the fact that set out to buy paintings, old and famous. And they go to the studio of a painter, has not yet managed to become a famous dead, and carried out under his arm, some of his paintings, they would be at least confident that the picture and signature on it - the original. Buy directly from artists, or at least with their lives - that's the easiest way to protect themselves against counterfeits. In addition, it is the easiest way to maintain the visual arts, so artists could live and create. Who buys only the old pictures, he fed some dealers, agents and speculators old pictures.
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No doubt: they too want to live, but art, real art of it, neither heat nor cold.
Reading the biographies of those old masters, whose works now thanks to their cost it makes sense to forge, we see that usually in the lives of these artists in their paintings there was no such demand and that they were not even dreamed of those sums that pay for these pictures now. Mikolas Ales (1) received for his classical paintings on guilder either paid them their accounts in the tavern. If, then, found a collector who gave Alesha least one-fifth of that paid for his pictures now, the late Ales could live differently and create more freely and not carry out orders, often absurd.

The fact that most so-called collectors do not understand the essence of art and not have him a serious, sensitive approach, and they do not dare to judge the artistic value of works by a living author and are afraid to make a bad buy. When life Navratil (2) no one admired his paintings on the weight of gold, because they did not see anything outstanding. Now Navratil quoted as stocks SMíCHOV brewery, and bought about the same purpose: to put in capital, yes, maybe even get rich, and in case of increase in price. Buying Navratil, you risk nothing - except perhaps to stumble upon a fake, and choose among modern paintings - here, my friends, requires a bit of artistic flair and the ability to guess talent has not yet been officially established the museum's assessment. Maybe that's the young master, who is currently a penny to, fifty years after his death becomes a famous old master paintings for bogus collectors who will pay tens of thousands of crowns, and so far - his paintings are several hundred and it already gives him the opportunity to live and write.

But, of course, much more striking point on the wall: they say, here I Pipengagen (3), and here the early drawing Chermak (4) - than to say: this is one artist still alive and give my head to be chopped off - the picture is good.

We still have not found any Tretyakov, nor Shchukin (5), nor Nemesa (6), nor Camondo (7), nor as yet there is such great collectors are called - who, with his taste and ability to orient the development of contemporary visual arts, gathered together to outstanding artistic value, and at the same time would incur in relation to the value of creating these artists feature a patron - or is it something even more necessary: the function of sympathetic cultural environment, relieving the artist of the need to create an atmosphere of indifference and incomprehension. For the development of art created by artists still alive, there must be people who are interested in them, rather than collectors and chased the values created by hand long dead, for certification and expertise, rather than approach the film with the measure, which can not be replaced by any expert, - with a direct assessment of its artistic merits.

antip 28.12.2008 11:44

Dear Artcol! I would like to say thank you calling the full name.
Pleasant to detect and (!) Understandable for a lyudey.Poetomu subscribe
under each your slovom.Pochuvstvovalsya a blessed breakthrough here
on forume.A also thank Messrs. Stozharov and Syzran for adoption
and understanding of the very important topic for "glued" to the soul of Fine Arts art.

artcol 28.12.2008 12:20

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Сообщение от antip (Сообщение 168526)
Therefore, subscribe to your every word.

Thank you:) But I just zapostil, but the very utterance belongs to the K. Capek. Thus shows that this problem is eternal, and solve it apparently did not succeed. Unfortunately. But try to be.

Shl name I do not hide, and personal communication will always be the real name:)


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