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Allena 12.12.2008 17:56

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 141336)
Our people (not all, of course), unpredictable

It is probably not in unpredictability. In my opinion, no state, except Russia, where entire classes would be destroyed or expelled from the country has steadily and inexorably. Remember in school: in 1929, completed the destruction of the kulaks as a class. " Noblemen were shot or exiled, the kulaks were shot or exiled to far away (here's rural and urban culture). In the rest of the population of special education was not - turned out the disruption in the head. Therefore the call for some sort Anpilova (pah-pah) all return to the bright past. In today's - the same devastation in their heads, they do not build their beliefs on what basis no bar. So it turns weathercocks, and there are many more than at first glance.
And in the army so this horror happening. How much in Russia these officers dynasties? For that to protect their homeland from time immemorial - and the profession of personal belief? At least since the Crimean War, the defense of Sevastopol? No they just do not. No one is sure.

SAH 12.12.2008 18:12

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 141426)
no state, except Russia, where entire classes would be destroyed or expelled from the country has steadily and inexorably.

And I note that for this crime or who has not suffered either a otvetstvennosti.I addition ideologist and inspirer of this is protected by a guard of honor. A grandmother on the content coming from taxpayers, their fathers and mothers whom he is also a unichtozhal.Pochemuto no ruler would not get up and do not honestly skazhet.A is very important in my opinion.

dedulya37 12.12.2008 18:35

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 141436)
for some reason, no ruler would not get up and honestly skazhet.A is very important in my opinion.

So I'm about say. Not so long ago Japanese Prime Minister have the courage to repent for all. Respect him and уважуха! (Damn, this modern jargon)

Кирилл Сызранский 12.12.2008 18:44

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 141426)
No they just do not. No one is sure.

I'd go into the army, this would be a dynasty! On the maternal-commissioned officers, and paternal-Cossacks-nagaybaki, since Godunov served. About Paris in the Chelyabinsk region yet I have heard.
http://www.scarb.ru/Fot_Ver_Nagaibaki.htm
Who cares.

Кирилл Сызранский 12.12.2008 18:46

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By the way, my two grandfather fought in the First World, and paternal and in the Civil War.
Not difficult to guess on which side.

Allena 12.12.2008 18:47

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 141436)
for this crime or who has not suffered either a liability

And do not suffer. There is none. Judge nobody, and the children of fathers did not respond. Although the Pope has repented and asked forgiveness for the acts of medieval inquisitors.

And ideology, it seems, has long been without a guard (on the Red Square 10 years was not). It's a shame that he is still in the mausoleum, but look at it another way: without repentance, the land would not accept it, the rights of Alexander until he comes of repentance for what was for so many years, she did not accept it.

But who should repent? Frankly, I do not know ...
Fanatics and revenge-seekers?
Conformists who are now in the Duma rations is not bad?
Those who sincerely believe in justice?
My school history teacher (attitude to it with enormous respect, so I beg of all: not being ironic) - daughter of repressed parents, his childhood at the corners of his relatives, who shelters - the restructuring discovered the camp where they killed him and went there. I saw her on his return - scary. And it is - a wise woman, far from polar communist fanaticism - all my life really believed in fairness, this was a communist (if this word was something real - this is it). So it repent?
The difficult question we raised, very difficult.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 141476)
I'd go into the army, this would be a dynasty! On the maternal-commissioned officers, and paternal-Cossacks-nagaybaki

Now it is clear who has taught you to swing his sword at the forum! I do not teach - at the gene level trained!;)

Cyril, so do not go back! Just do not think I'm in the condemnation, in any case. It was your choice, or so, circumstances or the army in the late seventies, no longer what it was - does not matter.
But those to follow the family tradition to defend their homeland was the only possible way of existence, that is the case.

dedulya37 12.12.2008 19:04

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 141496)
So it repent?

Our repentance is senseless, it does not hear.
As a rule of the people say rulers - kings, kings, presidents, premiers.
So we - maps in hand.

Allena 12.12.2008 19:57

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 141456)
Respect him and уважуха! (Damn, this modern jargon)

Why you slang, Grandpa? You also use normal words easier!:)

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 141526)
As a rule of the people say rulers - kings, kings, presidents, premiers.
So we - maps in hand.

And again you're right! But recantation must follow landmark case - especially bringing out the body ... And it will not be another twenty years at least, until, unfortunately, will not escape from the life of those whom this action is vitally hurt (do not mean fanatics, but simply poorly educated (see above), people for whom the contents of the sacred mausoleum) . And years later, dtsat it without any repentance quietly buried. So, I think, no one will confess, and all the cliches of both rode the rails, and will go. Rehabilitate the repressed, the current Communist unprincipled quietly raspolzutsya yourself ...
And here we are again slipping into politics ...
Hence the conclusion: the art of an utterly politicized, even if at this forum, we can not do without the policy. And maybe it's right, eh?

dedulya37 12.12.2008 20:51

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 141576)
art utterly politicized

Unfortunately everything is thoroughly politicized. : mad:
"spring had passed, summer came
thanks for this party! "

Art-lover 12.12.2008 22:48

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 141146)
And now what signs? Paintings Alexey Belyaev-Gintovt not change ..

Painting has not changed, changed era.
Selection jury Kandinsky - one of the signs of age.
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In periods of protracted crises, when the decline in living standards causes people to question the infallibility of leaders, the latest in dire need of myths and symbols.
The traditional symbols for the consolidation of the masses around the fathers of the Fatherland - the Great Idea (build a brighter future, the restoration of light of the past, the heroic struggle for something, trodden under the protection of sacred sites ...) and the image of the enemy (liberals, communists, fascists, gays, Judeo-Masons, adversary, bastards, alien elements ...).
But to power these myths been promulgated lead the masses in the desired degree of exaltation and idiocy, they should be artistically draw.
The growing force of imperial ideology needs to be visible form for its crystallization. This form of her and gives Belyaeva-Gintovt. His "Eurasian design with his usual banner, pop, aggression, bombast and glamorous ideal for processing jingoistic patriotic rallies and torch processions, soldiers' barracks and palaces of the oligarchs.

In modern conditions noted prestigious series in respect of post-modern artistic practice romanticized fascism - then mark it to others as aesthetically and ideologically normative. You can be sure that the number of hungry and savvy young artists have read the sign and understand what art in the country today kontemporari. And soon we will see the lush shoots of a new modification of social realism - "imperrealizma.

It's not even funny. Vaccination history too quickly loses its effectiveness.
The prize is awarded not on the orders of the authorities, but in addressing the jury had already read signal to the authorities: we are the people responsible, understand the moment, we are pleased you are ready to combine with the useful.


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