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-   -   Pyotr Konchalovsky (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=1996)

Seriy 09.10.2010 21:24

IMHO, something you underestimate Konchalovsky. After all, a great artist, educated, talented, hard-working, keeping up with the times. And to teach it something, I'd very happy to learn from him. And pions with sirens he became a symbol of the epoch-Stalinist empire. What more could you ask for? Condemn him for what he did?
Yes, not Van Gogh or Picasso, Well, what of it out of the princes in the dirt?

Кирилл Сызранский 09.10.2010 21:40

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1318281)
Well, what of it out of the princes in the dirt?

Why in the dirt? Everyone expresses their opinion.
To me he is not interesting, I do not educate ourselves beautiful and look at his stuff without a professional interest as a consumer of art only.
But his figure in a landscape of national art history I'm interested in, I wonder how he became such a figure, or how it became this figure. :D

NATA NOVA 09.10.2010 21:45

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 1318311"
every opinion expressed.

Yes
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1318311)
But his figure in a landscape of national art history I'm interested in, I wonder how he became such a figure, or how it became this figure.

Anyway, a "material part" (and "genetic background, of course) and primary, and determines consciousness, and all the appropriate components ..

Peter 09.10.2010 21:59

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1318281)
IMHO, something you underestimate Konchalovsky.
After all, a great artist, educated, talented, hard-working, keeping up with the times.

But I've Tsereteli resembles Konchalovsky, I mean it zhivopis.Tak is deliberately rough, with a flourish, with black outlines.

Кирилл Сызранский 09.10.2010 22:33

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1318361)
But I've Tsereteli resembles Konchalovsky, I mean it zhivopis.Tak is deliberately rough, with a flourish, with black outlines.


In Tsereteli even his anymore.
Or is it a flavor of the south?

fabosch 09.10.2010 23:13

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1318361)
But I've Tsereteli resembles Konchalovsky, I mean it zhivopis.Tak is deliberately rough, with a flourish, with black outlines.


How then does not see me so - give at least a couple of examples comparing

Peter 11.10.2010 21:05

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Well estesstvenno can not compare all the works, each had different periody.Dlya comparison, and more appropriate to show (no time to carefully pick :)), but approximately two works tak.Eto Tsereteli work Konchalovsky you well
know.

Peter 11.10.2010 21:08

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1318471)
I Tsereteli even his anymore.
Or is it a flavor of the south?

Kirill, totally agree.

I-V 11.10.2010 21:33

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1323021)
Well estesstvenno can not compare all the works, each had different periody.Dlya comparison, and more appropriate to show (no time to carefully pick), but something like this.

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Joined in the topic, he saw pictures and thought: What an interesting painting! Discovered, admired, and then saw the file name "Zurab" ... jerked it back, but too late! Liked it so much. Useful, nevertheless, sometimes like this, not knowing in advance)))

fabosch 11.10.2010 21:38

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1323021)
Well estesstvenno can not compare all the works, each had different periody.Dlya comparison, and more appropriate to show (no time to carefully pick :)), but something like this.

Peter, thanks. In the above example, you zurabovskaya picture, no doubt, more interesting and can be seen is what you said - some commonality.
I must admit that the pictures Tsereteli do I not delighted, although the paintings are not bad, and certainly not nasty, unlike some of his sculptural works.


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