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Кирилл Сызранский 17.03.2010 18:40

I am not an expert PDI, but was engaged in porcelain and in my opinion on these plates through the monitor, all things vladimir45 are true.

Konstantin 17.03.2010 19:13

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You have answered your question, why do they sell on the forum all the more so here in 95%of cases, no one buys, you know perfectly well where it is sold. The difference between one, you fake, as Christi has been sold at the real thing. Hopefully convincing answer.
There is no convincing this message is regarded as a flood, following in the same spirit, I will clean up.

Евгений 17.03.2010 19:56

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Сообщение от vladimir45 (Сообщение 986882)
that are subject to doubt the opinion of DPI. Kuskovo and SHM

Dear Vladimir, if you have an expert opinion of these respected organizations (and preferably full name, experts), show will be interesting to read, and many issues at once become clear.
Agree, fakes a huge amount and make them part of modern masters IPE (LPF) and a high level.
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If you offer to sell subject to a level necessary to write "The examination included, but it turns best guesses.

uriart 17.03.2010 20:18

All these modern replica of which you write are very different from the original plates!
And when the original plates in his hands at once feel it is an old china or modern replica.
I am sure that the experts from DPI have enough comparative material, and expertise.

Евгений 17.03.2010 20:30

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 987832)
I am sure that the experts from DPI have enough comparative material, and expertise.

Yuri, I'm writing about this, the seller refers to the experts Kuskovo and GMI, but examination of official no-shows, and shows the price 70t.u.e and above. (These prices and without all know)

vladimir45 17.03.2010 20:33

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I agree with you Eugene. All items of course but on examination there are some three and probably late but here they show. When you see a worthy proposal and will be a substantive conversation in a living then all and introduce myself. It aims not just to sell. Cel at all --- a sell well and even laying out here all the expertise of both lost intrigue Forum ----- lost interest in arguing and discussing a topic once turn against kompitentsii of the experts saying they are all ---- such syakie and corruptible . With regards to the modern masters of all they could At today's the day it is how do the figures late Soviet period and in order to do the dishes need clothes and they've got it all imported ----- it's all speculation ungrounded ----- - read on one forum that they are almost a third shift to make the battle dish ------- --- another one suggested here, and away we picked up as a bazaar ----- remember how in anegdote ---- Here Manka sluttish ----- ask and you slept with her? ---- --- No answers and you? --- No, too ---- but it vseravno walk. After all, do not fake in order to amuse their self-esteem and in order to earn and for this to be profitable should be the same quantity of objects. While there is a quantity, respectively, and the massive sales figures as an example with Gardner ---- for five years simply flooded the market from Europe and right up to Argentina. I agree with you that there is no yes and found something similar but when vidish and Beres in the hands of all you can tell. Appear for example in America and in Europe the Kremlin periodically but their plates and sold as a replica ----- gold on them like bronzyanki and mark the distance although there is no natural-looking as nastoyaschii. Here's how to do such a thing? Elib is possible that once flooded the market and it turns that all this speculation. Show this yourselfers. And what is it with regards to price as far as I remember my dear Eugene did not make ----- I just introduced you to a link where you can increase the photo almost home to see the amount of the subject and even parts of the Stobie compare.

Евгений 17.03.2010 20:48

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Сообщение от vladimir45 (Сообщение 987902)
In all things natural have expertise and some three and probably late but here they show

Why late? are rules placing the antiques in this forum and there is clearly written:
Appearance posts under "Buy /Sell"
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7. Expert opinion (if available) - the organization + name experts. "
You break these rules .. Hence the questions you want them?
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The theme can be maintained for another ...

vladimir45 17.03.2010 21:04

Perhaps you're right dear Eugene ---- I believed then newcomer - the offender. To be honest that I was probably more interesting to know how many interesting and productive this forum and I am pleasantly surprised that there are people who are interesting and important that they understand the subject. Porcelain generally very interesting topic and very promising in my opinion that deals specifically with IPE. All this was done only for the court or diplomatic gifts in contrast to the same Meyssan where, and for the king and all other ------ for IPE items do not have to think of history as it is already there and a lot of literature on this topic.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.03.2010 21:20

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 988052)
Dear Admin, I beg you to pay attention to (break the rules of information in this section)

So what this really terrible happened?
In this section, all put their proposals with some violations ...
What is all right to complain about something Webmaster?

Romario 17.03.2010 21:23

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 988052)
Once again invite you to publish the information in this section under the existing rules:
7. Expert opinion (if available) - the organization + name experts. "
Dear Admin, I beg you to pay attention to (break the rules of information in this section)

Eugene, you are wrong ...
nothing that had not been violated. do not want to go into execution of formal rules of life of arranging each member of the community, they'll start to each other "Do you pay taxes to the state?" :D

Евгений 17.03.2010 21:25

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 988092)
In this section, all put their proposals with some violations ...

Expertise he has, but he did not show hochet.Est rules of accommodation, if not expertise: You can write "Expertise is no, but
vladimir45, wrote "there are three examination of 'let the show and everything, no questions.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.03.2010 21:27

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 988142)
examination he has, but to show he does not want.

Topic author explained why he does not show the expert opinion.
It can be reasons to take, we can not accept, but the owner-master ...

Евгений 17.03.2010 21:34

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 988162)
It can be reasons to take, we can not accept, but the owner-master ...

You write everything correctly, but the price issue is not petty, and therefore asked to observe the rules of placement of such information.

vladimir45 17.03.2010 21:44

Dear Eugene frankly I have no task to sell the plate ----- I eat a huge desire to change it at the basket from Vladimirovskaya set. Suddenly the forum to find someone who has this subject and he is ready to change my. I could sell five years ago and thank God that did not. I Vladimir and I want to have a basket of Vladimirovskaya the service as a plate I have. Here I have this quirk. And the emperor is willing to sell. By the way ready to buy a plate from the service of the Order of St. Catherine priest of the plant.

Евгений 17.03.2010 21:51

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Сообщение от vladimir45 (Сообщение 988242)
Dear Eugene frankly I have no task to sell the plate ----- I eat a huge desire to change it at the basket from Vladimirovskaya set. Suddenly the forum to find someone who has this subject and he is ready to change my. I Vladimir and I want to have a basket of Vladimirovskaya the service as a plate I have. Here I have this quirk. And the emperor is willing to sell

There is a section "Arbor" ask admin to move your theme ..
You zapostili topic in the section "Sell"..., but in this section, there are certain rules of information ..


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