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eva777 26.11.2008 16:19

Provenance
 
I am with you to discuss the specific work rather than on any other work, about which I know nothing.
Knowledgeable market participants - who is this?
Provenance in the works of Russian avant-garde meets almost never, it relates to any size works.
And for you who is an expert in Exeter? Professor Kovalenko is not, as I understood.
Under all you can write anything you like, pour so much water. by the end of reading will forget about what actually was discussed.
And if the work included in the catalog, rezone, then surely a hundred times will check and think, then not disgraced.

Meister 26.11.2008 16:34

eva777, I understand that you are trying to protect this work as you can, do not know why, but not the essence.

And on the other works we say, because it is extremely important in the study of creativity of any artist. This forum is knowing people, I hope they will join us. I will cite specific arguments that disturbs me. You insist only on the examination Kovalenko. Another argument in favor of its authenticity is?
As for expert Exter. These for me are the directories mentioned in exhibitions and book. to the early examination of Mr. Kovalenko is trust.
Incidentally, on this site that work assigned to a yellow indicator. And now look at the first recently sold, oil, the work of Exter, having a green light http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/954...work_id=924620
At, first it is different in appearance, and secondly look at its provenance. And it was written at the same time as this (in theory)

As for the lack of provenance from the Russian avant-garde you are mistaken. In the false can not, but at this meet, and often. all wrong, maybe I am wrong. maybe she is real, but personally I would buy it did not.

eva777 26.11.2008 17:06

Meister
 
I just tried to find nothing but you, why did you decide that it is a fake, you are very detailed to me to explain my point of view, for what you thank you very much.
I'm not trying to defend this job, simply allegations does not suit me.
Examination Kovalenko, for me personally, is proof of authenticity, because, again, he is a leading ekpertom of Exter. And naturally, the catalogs Exter, too, personally I have left a feeling of authenticity of this work.
  I speak absolutely subjective point of view, but I think this is one of the best recent works Exter, who has appeared at auction in recent years.
And about Provenance: all but I shall continue to be mistaken, because, sane provenance from the Russian avant-garde is extremely rare.
best regards,
Eva777

Meister 26.11.2008 17:14

eva777, I am glad that explained his point of view. additional confirmation of my conjecture is the fact neprodazhi work, although you are right, big oil Exter very rarely appears in the sale. And it's very strange that he did not buy, if everything was in order. By the way, you look at the sale of oil Exter, with the green LED on the site. In all there are quite a good provenance. The Russian Avant-Garde basically two fates: either it was taken abroad where it all can be traced or got in museums. Earlier still in heirs of artists was, and now it is gone.

eva777 26.11.2008 17:39

Meister
 
I would have bought it, because I saw her in the Manege alive, a very beautiful work! And she just was brought from abroad. Provenance: was bought in the workshop of the artist in the late 30's.
And about neprodazhi not agree on this auction did not sell a lot of good things. IMHO

Евгений 26.11.2008 19:02

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 118626)
Examination Kovalenko, for me personally, is proof of authenticity, because, again, he is the leading ekpertom of Exter.

And it is possible more in detail about the experts?
Best regards.

eva777 27.11.2008 13:06

Kovalenko
 
Doctor of Art, Senior Fellow at the State Institute of Art. One of the best experts on the Russian avant-garde and Exter, in particular.
  Author of books:
Russian Art: XX century. Research and publications. Issue 1
Natalia Goncharova. Years in Russia
Polish art and literature. From Symbolism to the vanguard
Amazon vanguard. Author: Alexandra Exter: "Color Rhythms"
Symbolism in the forefront. (Compiler, editor)

Sandro 27.11.2008 18:56

additional confirmation of my conjecture [/QUOTE] is the fact neprodazhi work,. [/QUOTE]

And about neprodazh prekrasnyz Kharlamovs at the same auction or other neprodazh first-class objects in these auctions in London, sorry, you have any guesses? Like "expert analyst. And no wonder you are selling a half a lemon (thank God below the lower estimate is likely to start) still life "Goncharova" with 3 signatures Larionov? Not worth thinking about proper care of the majority of paintings on the current session? in crisis, that we with you on the Moscow market as a very visible, you should not dissemble ...

eva777 28.11.2008 17:12

and silence ..
 
in crisis, that we with you on the Moscow market as a very visible, you should not be cunning ... "
I would like to support. And about the "Goncharova.:)

fross 28.11.2008 18:02

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 120926)
"in the crisis, which we have with you on the Moscow market as a very visible, you should not be cunning ..."

Then, all the gentlemen dealers to recognize the offensive krisisa finally and irrevocably, I asked the buyer:
- And what discount is already doing?


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