Some of theses to the creation of an infrastructure of the art market in the interent

[artcol]

In the continuation of threads started by Art-lover.

Topic as it ripens . Will contribute in every way.

tezisno :
In contrast , I do not think it is possible and advisable to put some abstract and global challenges. The market is, there are artists , there are buyers . My approach - to reduce everything to the banal market, "buy-sell ". You must do two things:
1) electronic trading infrastructure
2) the stimulation of demand and trade

More to do until something unreal. Of course you can build with a budget of searchlights many zeros, with the involvement of the state , patrons and aliens, but says Cyril T. "if you want to do - do it yourself ." "Sam ," of course , in a figurative sense.

If anyone is interested to discuss the progress in this direction - will be happy . The key is to "do" and " myself." In any case - full pluralism.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от artcol

but says Cyril T. "if you want to do - do it yourself".

Not quite right quote, sorry.

A Cyril T. says this: I do not do - no one will do .

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

quote is not quite right, sorry.

A Cyril T. says this: I do not do - no one will do .

Well, good.
Trimmed

[Seriy]

artcol, you like (or it seemed to me?) Has created a topic about the infrastructure and the specific trade in the Internet?
not easier to continue or to combine themes?

[artcol]

Сообщение от Seriy

artcol, you like ( or it seemed to me ?) Has created a topic about the infrastructure and the specific trade in the Internet ? not easier to continue or to combine themes ?

I think that is enough to give link.

This post is probably just some mark milestones.

But mb someone promptly inserted his vision is the practical side of the issue. Why in the developed world for sale through an Internet PI - is a very real way to find a client , and in Russia - it's like not very interesting, is not working for other reasons .

[Fed]

Сообщение от artcol; 2240961"

does not work for other reasons .

"Around the world " cost of painting on a normal web site - a small part of the one -month salary. Decent - third.
Decent picture here is , at least, salary.
 And, most importantly - art dealer and artist originally intended that others - fools. Therefore, the prices are at random the mark.
Someone can cheat at first , but people are ingenious when it concerns money .
This long speech to the fact that the rates at the sites often 2-fold higher than in real life (in two). And at the exact same thing, or at times for analogs .

Well, the problem of "marks" - when the restaurant opened in the quarter , in a year there will be 5, although two were already closed in the same premises .
Internet sites -complete, professionally managed units to work with normal prices.
And most importantly - all the living and the young, hungry artists of thousands of dollars , propped up thousands of dead and old artists who are already eager not thousands.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Fed

"Around the World" at the cost of painting the usual web site - a small part of the one-month salary. Decent-third.
Decent picture here is, at least, salary.
 And, most importantly - art dealer and artist originally intended that others-fools. Therefore, the prices are at random the mark.
Someone can cheat at first, but people are ingenious when it concerns money.
This long speech to the fact that the rates at the sites often 2-fold higher than in real life (in two). And at the exact same thing, or at times for analogs.

Well, the problem of "marks" - when the restaurant opened in the quarter, in a year there will be 5, although two were already closed in the same premises.
Internet sites-complete, professionally managed units to work with normal prices.
And most importantly - all the living and the young, hungry artists of thousands of dollars, propped up thousands of dead and old artists who are already eager not thousands.

Fed, you identified two problems:
1) "Walk" price "from the ceiling," because "art dealer and artist originally intended that others are fools,"
2) unstructured and unprofessional market online

Do I understand correctly?

[Fed]

Correctly.

3) Too high, in principle, price.
We have already discussed the adequacy of many times.
When the average salary of $ 700, a relatively young artist cheaper 500 generally does not think of, and these issues are not masterpieces of 5 - ...
pcs.
a month.
Ie
that - estimates its attempts in four salary?

[artcol]

Сообщение от Fed

Correct.
3) Too high , in principle, price. We have already discussed the adequacy of many times. When the average salary of $ 700, a relatively young artist cheaper 500 generally does not think of , and these issues are not masterpieces of 5 - ... pcs. a month. Ie that - estimates its attempts in four salary ?

I agree. Somehow need to justify the price .
Professional dealers can make it . Artists often take more from their wishes , rather than on its objective level.

Obviously, the assessment should take place on the adequacy of verification . Given that the price of the good works are more likely to rise relative to the prices of a mediocre level , you must enter a factor depending on the degree of divergence from the stated price and the objective, and affects the availability of work .

[Pavel]

Сообщение от artcol

Agreed. Somehow need to justify the price .
Professional dealers can make it . Artists often take more from their wishes , rather than on its objective level.

Obviously, the assessment should take place on the adequacy of verification . Given that the price of the good works are more likely to rise relative to the prices of a mediocre level , you must enter a factor depending on the degree of divergence from the stated price and the objective, and affects the availability of work .

Score is set to the normal auction oboshedostupnom n p Drouot .