Constantine Azadovsky: Russian Museum v. Benoit

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Сообщение от serg_str

with phthalocyanine pigments probably not a museum of human rights, because because of complete lack of funding, procurement of equipment NO. Applications for infrared spectrometer and Raman long waiting in the wings for many years, had to use priborchik to determine the authenticity of excise stamps ...

Dear serg_str, thanks, that you acknowledged that the chemical-technological examination was carried out badly ..
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1. "Raman"-The device, which examines the molecular composition of the dye, called "Raman spectrometer" ..
2. "Priborchik to determine the authenticity of documentary stamps, it is not clear that ..???? The people, who knew?

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Сообщение от Mr u

Let us specifically to provide examples of incompetence staff GRM

As a typical example of a fake officer of the Tretyakov Gallery, Vladimir Petrov, now leads Dominica Shufrida altered under Alexei Savrasov. "Blame" Russian artist confirmed by experts of the Russian Museum and Tretyakov Gallery
Read more: http://rupo.ru/m/605/interwyyu_s_w._...tyyakowki.html

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[serg_str]

About surcharge - this is, sorry, speculation. This was the first in a series turned and works by international artists and the Russian Museum on it pierced. Given the excellent preparatory drawing, a set of pigments and a signature from the raw, on this "Savrasov" was granted a positive conclusion. This is a completely rewritten version of the classic corner with the signature on an old painting. In the Russian Museum was a few mistakes, but as you know - "Do not mistake the one who does not do anything."

[Liza]

Сообщение от Mr-y

I am very happy when the conversation out of the market level by LIZA, flows smoothly into another ploskost.A now if you can, reasonably prove obratnoe.Dlya maintain the theme should be very familiar with technological expertise.
By the way for the Ukrainian part of auditorii.Nezavisimaya Kiev expert campaign Art Lab, tried to refute the conclusion of timing with regard to Ukrainian artist first ryada.Laboratoriya concluded on the basis of all kinds of tests, which only can be, but to compile the information and not smogla.Pri comparison of the pigments have been a serious error, since the terminology, finishing datirovkoy.Dokument this was vymuchan two candidate of chemical sciences, who could not distinguish the varnish from linoksina.Voobsche something when comparing the physical and chemical analysis of timing and the Art Lab, found 10 mistakes.
That's such grief expert bodies timing is always ready to argue and be responsible for outstanding dokumenty.No subject of the dispute is not there, one ignorant and unprofessional.
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Dear Mister-y, thanks to that one side assessed the level of discussion I have proposed, emphasizing my good knowledge of technological expertise, and on the other hand, want to please you, I have one of those candidates in Chemistry, working in the Art Lab, which you write in the passage quoted below. And since I still work with experts Museum, and recently visited their lab, then your application looks very strange - none of those. of timing
(And there very few people work) made no mention of this contradiction. If you call the name of the employee who found the 10 worst mistakes in our examination (including dating), I'll be very grateful.
You have publicly advanced sufficiently serious accusations to us - so do not be unsubstantiated - saying Tell me, and B.
For the other distinguished participants, including Ukrainian, make no mistake - we already had a similar situation, but then referred to the Art Consulting, who was allegedly denied our examination results, one is also very well-known Ukrainian (by place of birth) of the artist. After a personal visit to the Art Consulting found that neither our expertise, nor the work in question no one in the eye saw. When not enough arguments, resort to this method here. I'm ready to argue with the facts (spectra, X-rays, dr.rezultatami research), but I'm for fair play. Not all met in our appearance on the market expertise with joy. Though we are open for cooperation and try to help than we can (including the disinterested). This can be confirmed, and some participants in the forum (if you want).
P.S. 1. On linoksina and varnish (long and tedious, but I raised this issue). Linoksin - oxidized oil, in other words, a solid film of oxidized oil, which is formed when it dries, which consists of oxidized glycerides of fatty acids. Hardened oil (linoksin) gradually loses its elasticity, resulting in an old oil painting is a fragile and brittle. In the stage of drying the oil into a hard and even brittle linoksin the entire thickness of the layer. At this stage, the film does not melt and does not dissolve in organic solvents. Because of the oil paints again, the same oil is oxidized with time under the influence of external factors, then the hardening of lacquer film is formed linoksina. We are in the records never stress the linoksina because it is in oil painting is always present. We specify only the type of middleware - such as oil.
P.S. 1. And the terminology we sometimes lame (from the point of view adopted in art criticism) - we all did chemists. We have uploaded samples of examinations, and if anyone finds some terms
unacceptable and tell us about it, we'll be very grateful.

[sergejnowo]

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Сообщение от Liza

A 2-3 days to make art criticism and the technological expertise of the two small works quite realistic

 Dear Liza, is simply a matter of a smile, you at least once, made for ourselves expertise in museums in Russia, as can be art history examination of two works, almost twenty-four hours, explain? And in this part of the examination, "vysochayshay qualification" expert timing, obviously rushed ..

[serg_str]

"Priborchik" is used not the good life. I already wrote that in buying a major spectrometric equipment management of the museum refused, calling do so, that is. Before using the "priborchik, its tested on the reference vykraskah phthalocyanine pigments, and he never made a mistake. Nevertheless, in a real situation there may be errors, so if there is a chance to double-check the data, it is necessarily done. You have to run around the city with the samples, poking at other people's labs, which are FT-IR and Raman spectrometers.

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Сообщение от Eugene

how to conduct examination of two works of art history, almost one day, explain??

But what is surprising?
The art historian specializing in certain (s) subject the author (s) can immediately say "it" or "not it". Is not it? In fact at a private expert to show things can immediately find out the authorship, and only if the base is generally not difficult.
I would be interested in an expert, let alone play for time he did not need.
It is clear that a citizen on the street no one will give the conclusion in 2-3 days.
But the friend the dealer, for example, why not?

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