Presumably, a student of Petrov-Vodkin

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sent the letter.
In any case, two times ( as Winnie the Pooh ).

You have to Khvalynsk second would be sent , their affiliate - " Art Memorial Museum Kuzma Petrov -Vodkin ."
They charge Valentina Borodina , who , in my opinion , knows about the artist and zhizei all. >

[Мира]

Thanks, done.

[Мира]

This morning the answer came from Valentina Borodina.
I asked and got a few hours of her permission to put this text on the forum. Now put the pieces here of two of her letters.


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You ".... I "gave" a sleepless night. I'm like a hunter, who feels a successful hunt for the beast, obsessed with the remainder of the previous day and night, leafing through the albums dedicated to the works by Kuzma Petrov-Vodin. And all day today writing this letter to you.'m pretty sure that it is not students (by the way, from information that is one of his students?), and the hand of the master. shoveled a lot of literature and documents in these hours. What I think about this piece ?

1. Figure, oval face, hands (not in vain gestures, and in prayer, slow) are very similar to the images of the master. I specifically made a compilation of those characters and put it next to the face of your movie that you saw yourself in the way he writes his nose (it brightened the middle part with a small hump), in which he writes frequently tilted his head, as places of paint on the face (as in the old icons afloat gradual lightening - from dark to light - creating volume). Have put you two options for persons with paintings by Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin - in color and black and white (second I made in order to not confuse you color inconsistency, because the matter is that I scanned the work of the album, and no pictures of how you, the original, and color in the release is far from original, in addition, a reproduction of landscape does not pass the little texture "noise", which is in the original, and the resolution of the scanned reproductions are small. If I had compared the original paintings , then the effect would be, I assure you even more.

...... So, I think it almost certain that it was the painting "Women in Green", written in Paris in 1924-1925. On this picture, nobody knows but me. The whereabouts of her was still unknown. In any catalog of masters, it is not mentioned, but his notebook, where he tried living in Paris at that time, compile a list of his works over the years. He probably did so at the request of FF Notgafta - collectors who collect pictures of Petrov-Vodkin, helped him with their sale, with the publication of postcards with his work, in addition, it helped Notgaft A. Galushkin - author of the first monograph on the lifetime Kuzma Petrov-Vodkin in 1936 - make directory. He kept lists of the master and it was probably at his request, Petrov-Vodkin, in 1926 and made lists of their major works, written before 1926 (notebook kept by us). They, of course, far incomplete, sometimes it confuses the years of creating some work, but it is only the author's handwritten testimony. The line 1924-1925 in the list is a picture of "Girls on the green," probably refers to the background picture. I think that the painting was sold in Paris, the artist lived there with his family is difficult, judging by the mother's letter, sent by there. In favor of this particular version has a point: Pay attention, there is a girl on the neck rope (probably from a cross, which is hidden behind a cut dress). In Petrov-Vodkin, who was himself a deeply religious man, almost all represented before the revolution (to 1917), women in the paintings are depicted with crosses ("Mother" (1915), "Women on the Volga" (1915), "Morning. Bathers" (1917) and others). In "Morning. Bathers" he will represent the last time a boy and a girl background with crosses on his neck. Then will come other times, where such an image would be impossible - the fight against remnants of the past, the religion of atheism and other delights of the post-1917. You could I argue, because this girl is a cross! Yes! But it was in 1924, he was living in Paris, will make an exception for a woman in the film "Sleeping Child" (1924).
Now this picture is in the museum of Turkmenistan (Ashgabat). Probably, in France, he allowed himself to this "freedom." "Girls on the green" written at the same time, and perhaps self-censorship, and has not touched them. We do not know how many girls have been shown, probably two.
........... So, I put in writing some comparative photos: № 4. Photos from the reproductions in color with their heads in the following order: Your "Our Lady" (1922) from a private collection (detail), "muse" of the portrait of Anna Akhmatova (1922) Russ, "Two" (1917) of the Pskov museum; " Mother "(1926) from a private collection," Two Girls "(1916) watercolor, RM," Still Life. Flowers and a woman's head "(1921) Russ (head in the mirror image provided)," Motherhood "(1925) private collection.
№ 5 The same, but in black and white.
№ 3. Hands of the pictures: Your, "Petrograd Madonna" (1920) TG; "The Virgin of Tenderness of Evil Hearts" (1915) Russ, "Morning. Bathers "(1917) Russ.
№ 6. The texture of your pictures and "Mother" (1925) private collection.
I think that looking at the faces you too will be inclined to favor later dates (not the 1910s, and 1920s).
Even I put in a letter to a photo with the painting "Sleeping Child" (1924), written in Paris, where a woman has a cross on his neck (the only such image in the post-revolutionary period). "

[Мира]

From the second letter:

"The work of Petrov-Vodkin very rarely come up at auction, because most of the master's creative heritage is already in museum collections, some part (not the best, although there are masterpieces) - in Russian private collections and rarely parted with collectors .


 In foreign collections Petrov-Vodkin - a rare representative. By the way, "Bob" is stored in a private collection in Chicago for 80 years. Researchers of the artist is not aware of the existence of this work (by the way, it was mentioned only once a master in those same lists drawn up by him in 1926 as "Girls on the green").

  Sorry, we do not know the reason why the canvas was cut ... but the one fact that the fragment is currently abroad, in America, says that I'm on the right track ... probably do the painting was sold in Paris in 1925 and only then she could, and during the war "to move" from Nazi-occupied France in America ... But where are the other fragments or fragment - that's the question? In fact, it may be that somewhere there is someone who speaks another fragment and not aware of the existence of your "puzzle".



    You have already purchased this piece glued to the board? Perhaps it stuck because of the fact that he was without a stretcher, and that it somehow to hang on the wall, glued to the board ... of course, chemical and technological expertise would not hurt to do it. Canvas strongly bonded to the board? Of course, this renovation has to be separated from his board. And suddenly on the back of the canvas there remains no inscriptions, signatures? Very curious ...


    ... Waiting for new photos and news, to somehow begin to concentrate on the article.
 By the way, when you read my articles, you'll see that one of the detected now works Petrov-Vodkin - his early "Portrait of I. Kazarinov" (his Maecenas) 1900 is stored right now in America's Silicon Valley. I went to one "novel" (of immigrants), perhaps it does not and that's the name, just called himself, who sent me a photograph of this portrait. You even can not imagine my joy. I knew that this portrait was painted by Petrov-Vodkin, knew all the details of working on it, but never saw him, we thought he was irretrievably lost. I wanted to ever see a woman's face, which he was indebted, looking for her photo, but all to no avail and then suddenly - a godsend! Unfortunately, after I this "Roman" everything said and wrote an article on the site, he was gone, the future fate of the portrait did not know. Maybe he will sell it at an international auction if not sold ... "

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I want to thank the members of this branch, and all those who thought they had suggested and helped to deal with this work.

Peter, your insight is amazing! I look at this "girl" for many years, but no idea what it is - a fragment of a larger picture.

Cyril, you have returned to this work in a few weeks after the break, was advised not to throw it, so give name and address outstanding professional. If it were not for you, my girl so would have remained a girl, and she can be "Female on the Green."
Of course, as long as it's only a guess, it will be necessary to make examination of paint and so on.

Once again, thank you all for your help, now we'll deal with it on.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Well, actually it was clear that this is a fragment of the picture, and I , in general, wrote about this earlier.

The picture painted helpless genius, but I personally have such CPV can not remember , but as of the last period.

But no . Seen one, it sold not too long ago at an auction, too helpless genius, but an absolute Petrov -Vodkin.

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this morning the answer came from Valentina Borodina .

Wow!
It was all very interesting.
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But it pretendet if not sensational , it really at least to the event :

...... So , I think it almost certain that it was the painting " Women in Green" , written in Paris in 1924-1925 .

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Cyril, you have returned to this work in a few weeks after the break, was advised not to throw it, so give name and address outstanding specialist.

I am glad that my advice helped.

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Wow!

It was all very interesting.

Not a word!
Many thanks to the participants of this correspondence.

 


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Not a word!

Yes, we are witnessing the story takes on new plays.
 
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1796253"

Yes , we are witnessing the story takes on new plays.

But what to say - great writing, great, deeply reasoned attribution !

But that is not in a hurry to put our art lovers , Ms. Borodina Spasibki > > ->
My friends, wake up ! Valentina in this forum has made an important discovery.
Of course , pre- and at a distance but , nevertheless , exciting and very like the truth . In my opinion, her work deserves special thanks .
And as a click Spasibki ...

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Yes, subscribe to the opinion of IV, is in our not often seen . For this alone can forgive him for the endless , fruitless and often unrepentant political- economic- sociological psevdodiskussii , hitters any desire to go here .
Even if the conjecture is not confirmed . It is important moment of breakthrough, a witness who is ...