And what is "the vanguard of Kazan"?

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It was not at all nor any posters or Caucasian or Turkestan

[B] - You see a gopher ?
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- And I do not see. And he has . [ /B] ( a ) >

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This poster started with 1919-1920 - the first year , and then he - Soviet .

I 'm telling you - this is a Soviet 22 -year, before the republic were different - formally independent .
You are in the history books even look .

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This is not the 10th , but not very far ...

A.Rodchenko portrait N.Rusakova , 1912

A.Rodchenko , "Girl with a Flower" , 1915 - 1916 г.

In 1914 Kazan come futurists - David Burliuk , Vasily Kamensky and Vladimir Mayakovsky read their poems in the Hall of Nobility Assembly . They created a furore . Rodchenko was there. There he first saw Mayakovsky , who a few years later would become his best friend and soul mate .

« was in Kazan 's main street - the Resurrection , and once in the window appeared some store poster, I do not remember the text, but something like:
"Three futurist "
DD Burliuk
 VV Kamensky
 VV Mayakovsky
 The gardens have discussed afishnoy showcase their arrival . In the Kazan school where I studied, the left-most of the students were Igor Nikitin and me. In the hallway of the school discussed what futurism ? " And here is the description of the presentation : " Scream ... Whoosh ... Laughter ... Indignation ... Burliuk , powdered , with an earring in one ear , solemn and imperturbable ... Vasily Kamensky in a light suit , with a giant chrysanthemum in buttonhole , his head held high , all sort of sparkling reads singsong ... Vladimir Mayakovsky in a yellow jacket low , pleasant, but covers the entire hall noise voice, read ... The first time I saw such a raging fury of the public ».

 Rodchenko - this is not the "Kazan avant-garde" , is a figure of self , few where he studied for three years in school to learn the hard teacher Feshina , Mayakovsky and Burliuk - father of Russian avant-garde met , caught their ideas and to Moscow
 where he was held as an artist and fully realized himself as the founder of constructivism , design and photography . And these are two of his early works sophomoric excuse and does not lie in its main line of creativity and innovation .
  That did not imagine that Alexander Rodchenko can be considered an artist of the "Kazan avant-garde ." Wow such a causal relationship to withdraw .
 By the way , these two papers clearly illustrate my earlier post, it is from this , many began .
    And then who AChRs , and who in the formalists .

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By the way , many dating works Chebotarev consider questionable

acetate, it is possible .
Unfortunately , did not find the image " geometrized " of 1918 K.K.Chebotareva belt of "Breakfast at Suuk-Su ."
But some researchers believe that the work was written before, but in 1918 is shown in the exhibition " Sunflower " Kozmodemyansk . The fact that Chebotarev traveled to the Crimea in 1914 , and already in the fifth periodic exhibition of paintings of the Kazan Art School in 1915 set " Crimean " work. And by 1918 , probably already he had other feelings and impressions ...
Here are parts catalog fifth exhibition ( what a pity that there was no photos ) ....

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strongly want to remove from this forum topic "Russian avant-garde".

I remind you that this topic is called What is the "Kazan vanguard"?

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- You see a gopher ?
- No
- And I do not see. And he has . ( a ) >
I 'm telling you - this is a Soviet 22 -year, before the republic were different - formally independent .
You look though the history book .

 And you look at the pre-revolutionary posters Turkestan , and so on , and in general about Turkistan posmeshnee art is something you will or vision in such moments rents . Again there was no posters and painting was not, and in Kazakhstan and writing, I am sorry if anyone offended .

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Rodchenko - this is not the "Kazan avant-garde" , is a figure of self-
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  That did not imagine that Alexander Rodchenko can be considered an artist of the "Kazan avant-garde ." Wow such a causal relationship to withdraw .
 By the way , these two papers clearly illustrate my earlier post, it is from this , many began .
    And then who AChRs , and who in the formalists .

Of course , acetate, you are absolutely right <! - ~ 1 ~ -> count - in response to your " studio " <! - ~ 1 ~ -> I hope no offense <! - ~ 1 ~ -> and no there is no causal link <! - ~ 1 ~ -> do not be angry , please < ! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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acetate, it is possible .
Unfortunately , did not find the image " geometrized " of 1918 K.K.Chebotareva belt of "Breakfast at Suuk-Su ."
But some researchers believe that the work was written before, but in 1918 is shown in the exhibition " Sunflower " Kozmodemyansk . The fact that Chebotarev traveled to the Crimea in 1914 , and already in the fifth periodic exhibition of paintings by the Kazan Art School in 1915 set " Crimean " work. And by 1918 , probably already he had other feelings and impressions ...
Here are parts catalog fifth exhibition ( what a pity that no photographs ) ....

  The geometry of the leading artists of the Russian avant appeared in 1913 and it is documented .

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And you look at the pre-revolutionary posters Turkestan

And where does the " prerevolutionary Turkestan "?
Who is this speaking in general here?
Word "prerevolutionary" in talking about the posters did not arise.

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«Turkestan avant-garde»

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I can not imagine how to stop the "flow" of art discoveries Maybe poll help


Who else, of course, except for the leading specialists in this thread: Cyril C. and Natalia B -

said Alexander Rodchenko and Kazan Tatar great artist???

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I can not imagine how to stop the "flow" of art discoveries Maybe poll will help :

Who else , of course , except for the leading specialists in this thread: Cyril C. and Natalia B -
said Alexander Rodchenko or Kazan Tatar great artist ???

 Who invented it , and he believes .
 The question is not quite art criticism , it is a kind of manifestation of independence , and of the authors of their own ambitions . Everyone wants to be implemented . A vanguard of the soil is very fertile , the author ranked as likam saints. That's about the restoration of Soviet monumental painting or so
not write. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
  Do you have a vanguard and we will , but as much as possible on earlier , but on interesting - fighting priorities.
   Here it turned out that there was " Turkestan avant-garde" , probably on a territorial basis , Ukrainians believe nationally , and sometimes so and so, so comfortable . True enough there are Turks , well Ural Tansykbaev a stretch , and so all of Moscow and Saratov artists .
   May soon appear and Chukchi Koryak or avant-garde, because the same was
 artist Vasily Elkin, quite a garde with Klutsis was familiar , the posters on the national language were - a great base for
emergence of a new phenomenon in art - " Chukchi avant-garde " , well, or poster.
So soon to get districts and regions , the former Soviet republics on all comers may not be enough .
   Valentin Serov as you said an interesting phrase - " There are many good artists, people versed in painting a little.
So that the survey that does not change and does not clarify . I know for sure , many friends - well-known collectors , these innovations are sarcastic , but it is very well known and respected people , lots to do
for the promotion of Russian art.