Let's fake?

[Glasha]

Nearby ibid Burliuk and again Zverev, as the same without him ..

[fross]

At artprice.com frequently receive proposals from a single source http://www.russianartsalon.com/ Number of known names represented on this site is great surprise, surprise increases when you see the quantity of work, and quite an extreme degree surprise - is when my very unprofessional opinion, for a variety of names slips one arm.

[SergeiSK]

fross,
Thank you very much! I have been looking for this site. The fact that he moved from the old address. This Boria from New York, I bought him some things. I can say that half the things he has and if this thoughtful approach, and porassprashivat Boris, you can make the correct purchase. Prices, he picked up something

[qwerty]

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fross,
Thank you very much! I have been looking for this site. The fact that he moved from the old address. This Boria from New York, I bought him some things. I can say that half the things he has and if this thoughtful approach, and porassprashivat Boris, you can make the correct purchase. Prices, he picked up something

In my opinion, on this site there are no perfect operation, ten percent are doubtful, the others - unconditional fufel.

[fross]

Comments on this site made me very intrigued, and that's what I found. Some of the works on this site (well, or their originals - I do not know) from the collection of Professor Boris Stavrovskaya.

The overall percentage
Gazette October 3, 2008

One of the best collections of art in the West of the Silver Age brought Boris Stavrovskii - Russian emigre, became a New York professor

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Any rich person can come to the auction (or to dispatch a representative), to buy a piece of art and call myself a collector. But this collector belongs to another breed. He was carefully studying the catalogs themselves, auction halls, galleries and museums. In doing so he do not even have to be rich.

This is Boris Stavrovsky, for 10 years at a salary of New York professors gathered an impressive collection of Russian art from the hundreds of paintings, sculptures, drawings, photographs and engravings of the Silver Age era.

These works covered almost every inch of his New York apartment. Paintings, one after another Stavrovskii pile on the floor, making his home look like a house of cards. The larger ones are stored in special warehouses or given temporary use. Believes Stavrovsky, with its collection in the West can compete only over the rich and famous collection of Prince Nikita Lobanov-Rostovsky, who lives in London.

The works of artists who formed the association "World of Art", is covered almost every inch of his apartment (see photo)
Stavrovskii always collected. As a child, collecting stamps in his youth interested in Russia's ancient coins (that he later acquired a collection of the Hermitage). Later turned to the illustrated books of Russian Symbolist poets, collected about 10 000 volumes. When he left in 1991 to the West is already an influential scientists (since 1960 Stavrovskii is developing software and navigation systems), he left them in Russia: the law of the country should not export books published before

1947. We had to decide what to build next.

"I can not live without kollektsioniruya - explains Stavrovskii. - I was an immigrant, so decided that I would collect works of Russian artists, immigrants, we have with them the overall proportion. It should be a limit - only then the collection will be worth something. "

Stavrovskii decided to stop participating in the association "World of Art". Most of the works included in his collection, were created by them is already in Paris, some - in the United States. He was making purchases at auctions, looking for the descendants of artists. Nearly 30 works purchased from the grandson of Boris Anisfeld, settled in the U.S. in 1918 (Anisfeld designer was in the Metropolitan Opera and Chicago Opera).

Stavrovskaya not very interested in abstraction and constructivism. In his collection of portraits of Anna Akhmatova and Boris Pasternak's works by Yuri Annenkov, executed in ink, drawing Lado Gudiashvili, depicting a dancer and actress Ida Rubinstein topless on the terrace of a Parisian cafe, Konstantin Korovin is a sketch for a portrait of Fyodor Chaliapin - this is one of 50 works Stavrovskaya meeting included an exhibition of Russian art, which in March will be held in Japan. And next year he owned 26 paintings and drawings are going to St. Petersburg in the Russian Museum.

However, not all of its acquisition - Significant works of art, Stavrovskii admits: "I am trying to create a complete picture - I buy something that may seem insignificant, but it is a small piece of glass, which will complete the mosaic."

Once he paid only $ 70 per Sudeikina, which the catalog attributed to the Hungarian school, but never in my life did not exceed the five-digit sum. "Portrait of an old Jew" Nathan Altman, he at first took to the "not its" price category.

I still bought it. Today this work is worth about $ 200 000.

Previously Stavrovskii watched the rise in price as they purchased the work - he estimates that the cost of collection from 1997 to 2004 increased by 11 times. Now he has ceased to worry about this. To buy, though, it became more difficult: first, have something to sell. Consolation Stavrovskii a luxurious antique frames, which are selected for their canvases. For example, pictures Aristarchus Lentulova "Church" 1913-1915 years he bought a colored Venetian gilt frame XVI century with the heads of cherubs. "Now each of my journey ends with the purchase of the frame" - he smiles.

(FT, 31.03.2007, Hope Karavayeva)

Photo 1 and 2 of the article works from the collection of Boris Stavrovskaya.
These portraits of Akhmatova and Pasternak's work Annenkova sell on the site. Sell together and judging by the six-figure price they must be genuine. But I do not believe that any collector would want to part with them even for very big money. While that's a collection of Lobanov-Rostovsky sold the same, although the museum and the whole.

Well, from the work they have already been removed, but I have kept the previous version of their pages on Annenkov - that's portraits they sold photo 3 and 4. Wash qwerty quite accurately describe them. But just think, even frames are not forgotten.: Mad:

[Tana]

Hurt me this Temko, so decided to sign up and tell his story about buying fakes, vobschem this was my first purchase and I bought the German auction, painting liked rather than because she had on a big name, but simply because she really liked and course was very surprised that with this name a very small price (estimate), but the picture was no history, after a short vobschem trades I got it (which I initially could not believe it) and only contact with the Russian Museum and a specialist found out that the signature on the painting a fake (Yes, after examining the works of the artist's signature and is close to its not like), well and smear, not the hand of the artist, whose name is signed, but pleased that I was told that my picture is real, that it is visible to the "soul of the artist" Yes 19 century, so just signed by an unknown artist known name.
Yes, it was very sad, how so, this is an auction (ah, naive !)... but the picture was from this love did not stop, so I love to look at it, attracts, fascinates: a moonlit night in a village in Russia ... Here signature annoying ...
Tell me please, and that the signature can not remove it from irritating restorers, but I fear that spoil the picture, or better cover the signature frame?
Conclusion: I do not regret the purchase, because buy it because they liked it, and the price it may be a little more expensive than the price of the 19 th century by an unknown artist, but I'm not paying those insane money for a "known name" (before you buy a set a price limit, so do not even reached him. )
Where once (do not even know for what reason) decide to sell it, of course, will tell the whole story.
No, I still like this winter's night! "Yes, the auction will not buy.
PSInteresno still hear stories from counterfeiting and other participants of the forum (not to be comforted that I am not one such), but to be "more experienced" in this matter.

[Glasha]

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to be "more experienced" in this matter.

"" Well, those who stop just thinking about the possibility of getting caught by the fake, in secret, for example: many experienced collectors in the far corners of dusty provocatively unreal "Zveryevs", "Yakovlev" and all that. Fee for science. It is clear that these "exhibits" is in no case will progress - remain just as a reminder of a collector's youth and first steps. In short, the majority of judges, practitioners go through the purchase of fakes, so that the situation is not shameful .""...

Tana, this article site http://artinvestment.ru/invest/ideas...410_howto.html, look at the early material in the topic "Survey", a lot of interesting things.

[Tana]

Here is another interesting can credit the subject of forgeries and expertise ...

Chagall and Van Gogh inexpensive: in London opened an exhibition of brilliant fakes
Are you sure that in "Yakitori" you serve Japanese dishes from the eastern products? We are confident that all the pictures of news releases are removed from the scene? We are confident that the girl "before" and "after" in advertising means for losing weight - one and the same person? We are confident that the "lilies" in the Louvre in fact belong to Monet's brush? Get to the bottom of things in the modern world more difficult than to find Shambhala.
Are you ready for the idea that any thing and the phenomenon may be fake? On this - the most scandalous exhibition of works by John Mayatta plagiarist of our time.

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Did a humble teacher of painting, which eventually he would become the author of almost the most exciting hoaxes end of XX century? John Mayatt embroiled in this postmodern game quite by accident. In the 80 years from want, he began to paint copies of paintings by great artists. Once one auction house, took his picture after the original. And away! Just at this time Mayatt met with a certain art dealer John Dryui. For 7 years they have sold about 200 fakes, and any number of independent experts or specialists from Christie's and Sotheby's, through which went the lion's share of pictures Mayatta not able to identify fraud. Without knowing it myself, Mayatt once again raised very important for art (and life in general) question: who to believe? What is the verdict of the expert? Why are these people from the height of his authority (often unwarranted) can decide which to live, and which sink into oblivion.

Meanwhile, in the opinion of experts keep the price of art market. It is not known exactly how many managed to earn Mayatt and Dryui on your business. It is unlikely that the investigators after their arrest in 1994, managed to return all money received brilliant duet from sales of paintings. During the proceedings managed to locate about 80 paintings Mayatta. The owners of the other paintings are still confident that became owners of the original (thanks to the experts!). And given what auctions were sold through Mayatta work, it becomes obvious: the virtuoso forgery may be not only in private collections, but also in major museums around the world.

What is changing? Will this have less to admire the treasures of the Louvre or the Dresden Gallery? Agree, more than a hundred paintings by great masters around the world - is a very tangible contribution to the art. Which brings us to the joy (all of us, including even the most highbrow art)? Surely only the signature on the painting? Case counterfeiting Mayatta confusing another factor: very often the artist did not copy masters, and wrote the unique paintings, brilliantly imitating the technique of recognized geniuses. It applies to such works? At the same time in the arsenal Mayatta - paintings of Monet, Picasso, Van Gogh, Chagall, Matisse, Giacometti ... Pillars of the world of art!

And put a number of original and fake Mayatta - no expert will find differences. Mayatt said that in order to achieve this level of skill, he carefully studied the biographies of artists. He seemed to get used to the image of a wizard.

So if you find yourself in the next few days in London, be sure to go to Harrods. It was there Mayatt arranged an exhibition of his works. Now he sells copies of quite legally. But only those copies remain, as in times of dashing of the underground, do not distinguish from the originals. "Water lilies" in Harrods - are the same as "Water lilies" that hang in the Louvre. Absolutely! A good test for the faith in the art ... History, as is known, ended a long time. And a fake Matisse is now for sale are not much cheaper Matisse present. Here are this right? After such a cultural shock, D & G, crosslinked chapped fingers Chinese pensioner, is perceived in the order of things. Welcome to the XXI century!

30.09.2008 10:00:00 Author: Alexey Terekhov
 

http://style.rbc.ru/events/2008/09/30/71273.shtml (copy and paste it, sorry the photo did not work ..)

somewhere else seen the news that the price of a copy (as is already being called by John Mayatta) of 20 000 dollars, but I think he has spent 6 years in fraud .... but seeing how life goes

[Glasha]

This material is the same show in the news site:
http://artinvestment.ru/news/exhibit...ohn_myatt.html
Generally, "fellow" - all shook up, placed on the ears, called for vigilance, ... only in the article, which you gave, it appears as an innocent lamb, in fact, is always a crime of moral threshold ----" John Mayatt embroiled in this postmodern game veryaccident. In the 80 years from want, he began to paint copies of paintings by great artists. One, one auction house, took his picture for the original "--

[Allena]

I think Mayatt refers to a very rare type of people - geniuses imitation. None of his they create can not - nature is not the same, but copy, emulate, to reincarnate in another person, to do everything technically flawless, professional - it is just their path. In my opinion, it's akin to acting, and brilliant acting.
I once heard an address by Helen Sanaeva, who told one finished, but never released (due neodobryamsa top) performance. Pushkin's role in it played Rolan Bykov (then still very young). At the dress rehearsal (or something like that) was attended by masters domestic Pushkin studies - TG Tsyavlovskaya, it seems, SM Bondi and a few others. And after the performance, all in one voice declared that the only way and no other Pushkin could not move, speak, gesture, turn your head ... Of course, there is some stretch: they themselves have not met with Pushkin, but on the other hand, more of them, so I doubt whether anyone knew then and knows now.
So and Mayatt: get used to the image, perevoproschalsya, studied and wrote. Just right Gala: someone with such a gift should be aware of the fact that his works may appear to exist and the future they will be separated from him. In this case, I do not believe in the work of pure curiosity and the author's infantilism, bordering with dementia, for infantile people to create such works could not ever, and consequently, Mayatt knew what he was doing - and it is not exactly a white lamb was: D .