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LCR, a huge thank you for the wonderful article! In the near future we will post this article on the main site.

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The illustrated arrangement article "A Brief History of fakes" site ARTinvestment.RU



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qwerty,
You are all, unfortunately, speak only as art dealers, and not as the heirs of artists for whom either resigning from the family picture as a native child.
Hence the distrust of the family and the desire to err on the будующее.
But if the heirs want and sell and keep the original?
The art of luxury, and the more they engaged in blood pressure the better for all.



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Вложение 152235
Painting by Paul Gauguin Vase de Fleurs (Lilas) is not the most luchshaya his work, it refers to the average market goods category, which means that the picture often changes owners and are passed from hand to hand for a few thousand dollars difference in price. But in May 2000, this painting has attracted much attention
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When Sotheby's and Christie published a spring catalog, they suddenly discovered that each of them has their hands on one and the same picture
One of which, obviously, was a forgery. Two paintings urgently sent to Paris, the expert on Gauguin, Sylvie Kussar. She immediately within minutes have stated that the painting from Christie is a fake, but one of the best imitations, that she had seen.
Auction house Christie announced the results of examination of the owner of the picture-gallery, "The Muse" in Tokyo, who had no idea that the painting a fake, he bought ee y Eli Sakai, New Yorks dealer for 310 thousand dollars.
FBI investigation and provelo obnaruzhilo as the original, too, came from the same New York dealer
It was pure coincidence that both paintings were on auction
FBI potyanulo the strings in the gallery and nashlo Sakayan many imitations of paintings and antiquities in the multimillion deals.
Eli Sakai immigrated from Iran to the United States 35 years ago, quickly found himself in business, antiques, was well received in secured community of New York. Since the late 80's it can be often seen at Christie's auction and Sotheby's, where the dealer bought the painting impressionists and post-impressionists. Always dressed in the old quarter, the cowboy boots, a purple suit. Later he moved to the classic costumes and behaved as a member of the royal family. On his finger wore expensive ring. and as one dealer remarked: "Cakaya smell of money"
Auctions Eli Sakai buy Monet, Chagall, Laurencin, but never from the top is, he chose little-known work for the Greatest amount of several thousand dollars.


In the 90 years, Japanese companies and collectors have expressed interest in the Impressionists' works, and Sakai found a market.
For example, the FBI Sakai bought the painting La Nappe Mauve Marc Chagall to Kristi for 312 thousand, and three years later sold the counterfeit is the Tokyo collector for 514 thousand Pictures of the changed several owners and surfaced at an auction at the Gallery Koller Zurich.

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Gallery owner Cyril Koller somehow felt fake, he sent a certificate for a picture (issued by the Committee of steps) to the committee Chagall, and there have confirmed that the certificate nastoyaschy. But Mr. Koller still doubted the authenticity of the paintings, and eskpertiza confirmed that the picture is not original
It turns out that a fake painting was sold with this certificate and the original was sold in 1999 to Kristi for 340 thousand dollars.
  According to FBI investigation, Sakai sold in Tokyo now Marie Laurencin "Jeune Fille à la Mandoline" in 1995 for $ 28.100 (the buyer pays two paintings at a price equal to this amount). Pictures of was resold several times and ended up at Christie's auction in 1997

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Another case, the seller sent to auction Chagall's "Les Maries au Bouquet de Fleurs", acquired from Sakayan. Pictures of the was sold for 450 thousand, but after ascertaining that it is a fake, the picture was taken back and sent to the seller

Вложение 152265

In 1998, the buyer of Taipei Saka paid 80 thousand for "Le Roi David Dans le Paysage Vert" Chagall, and bought a painting by Renoir. At Sotheby's it was discovered that a fake Renoir, as well as the Chagall Committee said that fake Chagall painting.

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Auction houses have become wary of the appearance Sakayan. Kazhdy times when there is a picture of him at the auction, the phone rang from Tokyo, that they are "twin"
Sakai has denied any involvement in counterfeiting, replying: he can not follow the pattern until it is in the Field Presence of vision, who knows, maybe these people have done forgery.

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Manhettenskie artdillery noticed that Sakai is buying the works of old masters who do not deserve interest. Usually people do poddelschiki kartin to be in the hands of old canvases

FBI monitored Sakai 5-6 years, and he knew it. But to prove his involvement in the forgeries was difficult because international fraud is not so easy to unravel, the FBI should cooperate with the police of different countries, protryasti remain silent all the facts of dealers, as they were misled, as well as to transfer all the documents of the French expert testimony and Japanese collectors
Until now, the FBI does not know who drew these fakes. A copy of the pictures is not illegal occupation, and becomes a forgery when sold as original
Japanese buyers to trust the certificate, as well as experts Chagall are not readily available in connection with distance, and those that are not very professional. In all, the paintings were not as well known, and not worth 20 million, and within 500 thousand, so did without the expert
The difference in culture also played on the arm. When the Japanese artdiler notice that he was cheated, he did not make a scandal and shame.
Mosheniki also counting on the fact that in the art world is not so often dealers say about fakes. When multimillion reputation on the map, then not everyone can openly declare that he was duped. Even when the dealer finds a clear forgery, he would prefer to remain silent
"What is the internal struggle is when you see a fake on the Sotheby's? - Says one New York dealer .- Raise the noise that now claimed? No. Always comes to mind: I personally say nothing"

Auction Houses rarely authenticate paintings middle category, the fee is small, but a lot of trouble
At the swindlers and feed.

Eli Saca light of 20 years in prison, but he escaped 41 months and 12.5 million Stafa, in 2005.
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Of course, I understand that 100%copy - it is not compiled the thing, but to make a copy, 100%similar to the original is extremely difficult and often impossible. Or customers have not stared at? In addition, if he was selling copies of the original certificates, the originals themselves with what he was selling the certificate?
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Copying is a learning process for all art schools. I think learning Glazunov built on copying. The temptation is great, when a closed market situation conducive to fraud.
The openness of the market is obshedostupny public auction with archive sales.



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obshedostupny public auction
I was not the first time I've heard from you about the "public auction". What it should be, in your opinion? I've been the state as the auctioneer can not imagine. Some dikovenny too beast in my mind there, a kind of uniform with distinguishing signs for workers once the auction is submitted, ranks, weapons at the auction custodians, bulletproof vests ...



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What it should be, in your opinion? I've been the state as the auctioneer can not imagine. Some dikovenny too beast in my mind there, a kind of uniform with distinguishing signs for workers once the auction is submitted, ranks, weapons at the auction custodians, bulletproof vests ...
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I was not the first time I've heard from you about the "public auction". What it should be, in your opinion? I've been the state as the auctioneer can not imagine. Some dikovenny too beast in my mind there, some kind of uniform with distinguishing signs for workers once the auction is submitted, ranks, weapons at the auction custodians, bulletproof vests ...
The fact that existing in our auctions do not allow to raise prices to world levels, and a closed system (even not possible to know the result) is aimed at obegorivanie artists. If interested in obtaining state tax sprodazh%of those who paid more than the sum of sale, it bubet mutually beneficial to the state and the merchants and galleries and artists. Role of the State to provide facilities, management, indentured servants, the sale may hold, auction houses and special appraisers, which can be a lot to 50. The room should allow for a lot of auctions per day (as at Drouot MONTAGNE) to 20. In the future, the opening of many branches in Moscow and other cities suggest a ransom from the state and corporatization, the creation of auction houses, etc. As you can see almost what has long been successfully operating in France. and the French understand the sense in trading and this system has led to the flourishing of art in France.

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Pavel, a State can not start production of normal cars, and you about trade pictures.



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