This is not Stozharau!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

What will you next place of sale of these " originals "?
A Comrade . Tyutchev? Underpass ?

A hammer - this is the subway, are at the bottom . Sewage.

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Сообщение от Santa

For example, I very well see those letters >
And it should be noted - not just those >

And you losing ? 15 , etc. in 3 of Stozharov . When was this? Would have taken and invested . Do not get lost , bolder - it Stozharau Well , for anyone to walk away , plus , plus a reputation as a connoisseur will find , will be equal to the COP on the talk : here my dear , you did not buy , and ventured and won >

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I know, I also confirmed with our grandpa -dedulya37 some things Stozharov , I'm on the Fund to know a lot , but you just recently learned about the Fund this forum, in the same subject, by the way . And at the same time the first thing you disturbed state of affairs of the Fund , taking into account registration fraud and VF Stozharov . >
By the way, re-read these sentences in their own :

Yes, I did not know that the fund has been established . Why I had to know about it? I called up with Alexander every day. I have been with him a business relationship. Sometimes we have not talked for months or even years .

At Alexander Stozharov I bought of his father in the late 90s. And when you meet him?

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Сообщение от Tyutchev ; 1835321 "

I'm with him was a business relationship. Sometimes we have not talked for months or even years .
 

dedulya37, by the way, always interested me who the Tyutchev, even you have described him , but he was perplexed , because all the major players in our art market is well known , all more or less prominent dealers knew by sight but by your description , none of these individuals did not fall .
And he knew that people on the forum with the nick Tyutchev does not know anything about art Stozharov .
And so in this issue Alexander never made a mistake .

Сообщение от Tyutchev ; 1835321"

Alexander the Stozharov I bought the work of his father in the late 90s .

I doubt very much at the same time, Grandpa would have you remember , he remembered perfectly all customers and not only watched the movements of his works sold , but the movements themselves these buyers, as a geographical and a career , for example.

[Пелагея Ларина]

Сообщение от tivat

Did pick up the archives and check inventory numbers is impossible?
inv. Number 25 805
inv. Number 25 904
inv. Number 25 841

It's impossible. Archives no.
But! There is, for example, family archives ...
Here you are.
In 1981, the painter (full name - is irrelevant to the topic, I will not name) has been deposited and accepted by the Art Salon of the USSR to export a certain amount of CP work. V1982, the artist has died, the heir (my husband) got money for the sold paintings and one was returned unsold work.
In the photo-preserved form of the Salon at this picture.
Let's compare.

I - № Protocol 429/62, Inv. № 25 658,
At work Stozharov (?) - № protocols 430 /3, 430/39 i430/102, Inv. № 25 805, 25 841 25 904 and (respectively).

It turns out that studies Stozharov (?) Also were put in the Salon in 1981.
There is a lot of questions! I have, in any case, as I know, "this kitchen" firsthand.
The big question - by whom and how these work, 8 years after his death were put in the Art Salon export CP of the USSR?
Wife? Son? Then they (studies) would be indicated in the files of Alexander, relatives, heirs of them would have known (see post number 138, Allena), finally had to count with these works in AV - He would have done it himself or would have received from Salon - Salon paintings and photographs of artists granted the photos for free.

On. The form is written "from the artist" ... in 1981 from the workshop Stozharov??
This entry "from the artist" means that the picture is purchased directly from the author - she toured the headmistress of the Salon artists' studios and take jobs.
At the same time UNLESS SIGNED Shop Well he could not take pictures! Artist (living) were obliged to sign would certainly work.
And the heirs, in fact, the Salon of work and did not take - there was no such practice. Third parties (fiz.litsa) were excluded in principle.
KHUDFOND, yes, he could hold a posthumous exhibition and sale and transfer of assets to the heirs, but it had a lot of rapids stud.

So your statement georgian_art, the fact that

- in pictures Stozharov (?) Is the least inventory numbers of the Art Salon ...

... Is to put it mildly, is not convincing. >
Especially, during the collapse of the USSR various forms Hud.Fonda, CX, and, accordingly, ordered to live long Saloon export CP USSR packs thrown in the trash along with valuable archives ... >

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Сообщение от Pelagia Larina ; 1835391"

I - № Protocol 429/62 , Inv . № 25 658 ,
At work Stozharov (?) - № protocols 430 /3 , 430/39 i430/102 , Inv . № 25 805 , 25 841 25 904 and (respectively).

It turns out that studies Stozharov (? ) Were also put in Salon in 1981.
There is a lot of questions ! I have, in any case , as I know , " this kitchen " firsthand.
The big question - who and how they work, 8 years after his death were put into Art Salon export CP of the USSR?
Wife? Son? Then they (studies ) would be indicated in the files of Alexander, relatives , heirs of them would have known (see post number 138, Allena), finally had to count with these works in AV - He would have done it himself or would have received from Salon - Salon paintings and photographs of artists, free photo granted .

class !
There are no words .
Brava !!!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

dedulya37, by the way, always interested me who the Tyutchev, even you have described him, but he was perplexed, because all major players in our art market is well known, all more or less prominent dealers knew by sight but by your description, none of these individuals did not fall.
And he knew that people on the forum with the nickname Tyutchev did not know anything about art Stozharov.
And so in this issue Alexander never made a mistake.

It's a lie!

No one knows all the dealers. Especially since "a little bit noticeable." And the more Stozharau Alexander, who was engaged in creative work of his father. I assure you that the artist can not Stozharau interest of all dealers and collectors. And only a very small part of them. Not because he's a bad artist, but because it is so constituted market.

Which of the "big players" interested and concerned artist Stozharau? What kind of "big players" do you mean? Or, who is on your "big player"?

And yet, Alexander could not be judged on my knowledge of the artist Stozharov, for one simple reason, I have never written on this artist at the Forum, during the life of Alexander the Stozharov!

If I lie, give evidence. Find the post where I write about the artist Stozharov!

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Сообщение от Tyutchev

This is a lie!

No one knows all the dealers. Especially since "a little bit noticeable." And the more Stozharau Alexander, who was engaged in creative work of his father. I assure you that the artist can not Stozharau interest of all dealers and collectors. And only a very small part of them. Not because he's a bad artist, but because it is so constituted market.

Which of the "big players" interested and concerned artist Stozharau? What kind of "big players" do you mean? Or, who is on your "big player"?

And yet, Alexander could not be judged on my knowledge of the artist Stozharov, for one simple reason, I have never written on this artist at the Forum, during the life of Alexander the Stozharov!

If I lie, give evidence. Find the post where I write about the artist Stozharov!

Yes, you take it easy for the sake of Christ, and it will happen or convulsions or epilepsy attack.

That you reviewed the so-then you also say that those three do not fake your and yourself btetesb for them foaming at the mouth as for his.
A?
Calm, not panic! (c) >
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Alexandria V. all the dealers, and runners dilerkov not know, of course, but those who bought his father's work he knew well.
You write:

Сообщение от Tyutchev; 1835321"

Alexander the Stozharov I bought of his father in the late 90s.

Moreover, he was even familiar, though in absentia, with foreign buyers today, the old pro, I'm not talking, they came to him personally.
He phoned, sent photos of people from around the world and all he remembered prodalzhal them to communicate, phoned, the good English he knew well, he taught at its universities.

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Сообщение от Pelagia Larina

I can not . Archives no .
But! There is, for example , family archives ...
Here you are.
In 1981, the painter (full name - is irrelevant to the topic, I will not name ) has been deposited and accepted by the Art Salon of the USSR to export a certain amount of CP work. V1982 , the artist has died , the heir (my husband ) got money for the sold paintings and one was returned unsold work.
In the photo -preserved form of the Salon at this picture.
Let's compare .

Come on, let's ...
Pelagia Larin, but how do you explain the obvious fact that the form with your work and the forms with the subject matter discussed in this work are undeservedly called falshaka , filled with the same hand ? >

Or your fake too ? >

[Santa]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1835351"

who is Tyutchev, even it you have described, but he was perplexed , because all the major players in our art market is well known , all more or less prominent dealers knew by sight , but by your description , none of these individuals did not fall.

Tyutchev, like your sketch were >
Then interviewed all but the smallest of the art market players ..
Intriguing, dammit! > >

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Сообщение от Santa

Tyutchev, like your sketch were >

Then interviewed all but the smallest of the art market players ..

Intriguing, dammit!
> >

I'm flattered!
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