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Старый 23.01.2010, 18:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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The forum has raised the question about the art of the East by the example of China's remarkable collection of Cyril Galleries Danelia. I want to turn to Egypt, which, again in the gallery presented a very interesting monuments. Alas, apparently, Russia will not soon come to an understanding of the value of such ancient monuments, which in the West are extremely popular. Three years ago, for example, a statue of Queen Mut Tuyi, mother of Ramses II from the collection of family Harer was sold for more than $ 2 million to start the discussion and reference to the six lots in the December auction, Sotheby's:

The Egyptian section of trades, in 2009, quite small compared to the collections presented in the last five years. However, several works deserve attention and, of course, would amount to honor the best museum collections of Egyptian antiquities. Home unexpected upcoming auctions - sometimes very bold, and sometimes not even a particularly appropriate estimate on the background of several frankly under-appreciated works of art.
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The best memorial sculpture presented in the collection - a portrait of the royal granite era Tutmosidov originating from the Austrian assembly Nicholas von Arco, the core of which was collected in 1900-1920 gg. The height of the monument, made of granite, - 18,7 cm, estimate "Sotheby's" - $ 40-60 thousand person goes back to the luschim early portraits of Thutmose III, or to very similar with them portraits of Hatshepsut. Judging by the fragments of a three-part wig, it is possible that the statue could represent a deity endowed with the portrait similarity with the king.

Sculpture of the Late time is represented in the collection of superior head of the statue of the god Osiris, dated rule Psammetichus I (XXVI dyn.). Head height 12.1 cm, was once part of an impressive statue of the god, made of greywackes (Online auction house incorrectly listed basalt); feathers of the crown 'Atef' at the head of Osiris and his beard, bear traces of gilding. Apparently, the statue was close to the best image of Osiris, the era of so-called "Saisskogo renaissance", for example, the famous statue of the god of the Pushkin Museum in Moscow. The monument was published in 1960 by the prominent expert on ancient Egyptian sculpture Bernard Botmer and comes from the Belgian collection. Estimate surprisingly low - $ 15-25 thousand

A work of art is very high level - inlay of rare and highly revered in Egypt, red jasper, height of 3.9 cm, in the form of human, most likely, - the king's face. The level of execution and the rarity of the material led to estimate the house "Sotheby's, which, despite all the arguments that seem unnaturally high - $ 80-120 thousand monuments dating from the time XIX or XXII dynasty has many similarities, mostly - made of glass and has twice passed through hands of experts "Sotheby's in 1981 and 1989. On the origin of the monument "Sotheby's" tersely wrote: "European private collection.

The same absolutely nedekvatny estimate given in the case of a statue of a kneeling priest, made of copper alloy masters of contemporary XXVI dynasty. Height statues - just 14 cm, it is neither rare nor some distinctive level of artistic performance. The only interesting aspect of the monument - the hands of the priest, who, unlike the usual posture for Egyptian adoration, rotated his fingers to his face. Hans Wolfgang Muller, who studied the monument, has suggested that the statue, the former was originally part of a large sculptural group, where the priest was kneeling before the god Thoth ibises, depicts a blinded the priest, praying Toth about healing through the ancient, well-known since the time of the pyramids spells, composed of ten sayings, which he counts on his fingers (Hans-Wolfgang Müller, Eine ungewöhnliche Metallfigur eines blinden ägyptischen Priesters //Sitzungsberichte. Bayerische Akademie der Wissenschaften, Philo.-hist. Klasse., 1989, Heft 5, pp. 5-33, figs . 1, 2, 4-11).

The lower part of the limestone statue of a woman (height 42 cm) is very good, despite the loss of the upper half of the monument. The inscription, perfectly preserved in the reference column indicates that this image Tager priestesses of the temple in the ancient city Saheb (modern Zat al-Kom), located on the south-west of the Delta. The statue, depicting a contemporary of the first Ptolemies, repeatedly published; estimate - $ 25-35 thousand

Judging from the data from the island of Elephantine is the last monument of interest in these auctions - the statue of the deified queen Arsine II of Dynasty Potlemeev. The monument is relatively small (32 x 32 cm), but quite good and, alas, is a vivid example of the sake of a portrait of Queen was disfigured temple wall. Origin of relief - a collection of Oscar Carbon of a sudden for the ancient Egyptian monuments of Buenos Aires. Estimate "a Sotheby's" is not particularly large - $ 20-30 thousand

All photos - © sothebys.com

An interesting program "Collection" channel "Mansion" on the Egyptian things in the Gallery Cyril Danelia - as a continuation razmysheny, but on the native soil ...
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Thank you very much, and what are the sales results were? And as the crisis has affected this segment of the market?



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Dear Solkin, many thanks for your story.

In conservative investment for the art of ancient Egypt, I think, is one of the most interesting.

As for the art of China, in addition to konervativnogo investment in light of recent events there appeared again, in my opinion, the opportunity to buy a million lottery ticket

I wanted to ask you: what about counterfeiting?
The forum has already been raised - very briefly - the question of Chinese sculpture, it seems that fraud is extremely numerous and iskustny.
Ancient Egyptian replica, should be also frequent (some of them managed to get the prestige and the patina of time, is not it? Because their production began in the XIX century ).

But the main thing - do not be silent, tell me more detail on these markets!



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Viktor,
thank you for your kind words ... and thanks for starting the discussion difficult, but very fascinating topic)))
from my humble collection:
Anthropomorphic sarcophagus priestesses.
Egypt, Akhmim; ranneptolemeevskoe time, III in. BC
wood, gesso and painted. 189h43 see
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An interesting sale at Drouot auction
http://www.drouot.com/?bpage=article...niques&id=2123
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1.Tête de Sphinx sous les traits du roi Ariès ou AmasisEgypte, Basse Epoque, ca. 589-526 av. J. - C. Adjugé: 248 000 € frais compris
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I wanted to ask you: what about counterfeiting?
Thank you for your kind words. Henceforth, try to get out here more often, as work let

Egyptian forgery not as numerous as the Chinese. I, of course, mean a good fake, and not the tourist consumer goods. Almost never get good fake stone - plastic Egyptian art does not give falsifiers that even in very high quality of their "work" or allow a significant rigidity of forms, or confused about the style attribute, or do not know how to work with the surface - and that the Egyptians knew perfectly. On errors in the hieroglyphic texts say nothing. As a result, fake stone is always very well visible. Especially - limestone. However, for forgery, because of the strength of granite or diorite, often taking his name. Exceptions are rare, still exists. Here is a prime example - with the famous granite statue of Senusret III, which was sold in 1998, a Parisian gallery, accompanied by expert Elizabeth Delange, then had preserved in the Louvre, a sculpture of the Middle Kingdom (the same age). Ms. Delange excellent specialist, and this is a rare, interesting case where even after the sale of the monument, marred by a negative assessment of the Egyptian Museum in Berlin, or rather - Vildunga Dietrich, director of a prominent art critic and once again, a specialist on the Middle Kingdom, was appointed as the new material science expertise, which showed the presence in the rock surface traces of steel abrasive. In 2003, we wrote about the "steel Senusret" on our site, with the view of Jean Yoyotta detail. I place here are two not very high-quality photo of this monument, is extremely rare. This is a true masterpiece of forgery (in fact, apparently, distinguishes it from known authentic portraits of Senusret III only very small distance from the line of the upper lip to his nose and a certain narrowness of the face), severely compromised the Louvre.
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Another significant and very thin fake. Unfortunately, it was only known to date, a statue of Queen Tetisheri, preserved in the British Museum (EA22558). She was recognized as a fake in 1984, after studies Vivian Davis, and even exhibited at a special exhibition of the best imitations of Egyptian art. The monument that is widely known. Questions to the statue emerged from behind the strange-shaped headdress "neret. Text, interestingly, was executed almost perfectly, taking into account the peculiarities of epigraphy beginning of the XVIII dynasty.

Not so long ago in the U.S. through the University of Rhode Island tried to legalize another "king's portrait, this time -" Tutankhamen ", limestone, sorry, totally old style and primitive. Again, we wrote about it, and I gave a special comment about it.

A rare case, with authors caught counterfeiting - a sensational case of the "Bolton Princess - Princess amarnskoy sculpture made of white alabaster, which suddenly appeared in the UK was in 2003 acquired Bolton regional museum for 440 thousand British pounds. It was false, that quickly established the British Museum. Manufacturers - father and son - quickly found. It turned out that they have established extensive production, however, dealt mainly forgery of works of art of Mesopotamia. The British Museum has long been suspected them of creating a number of scandalous forgeries. Bolton's problem was that they acquired a monument, not sent to a consultation with an experienced expert, and agreeing with the opinion of the custodian of the local museum with a very meager collection. Apparently, very much like to get a collection amarnsky masterpiece (his photo - a massive princess in profile, noticeably copied from the famous Torso of Nefertiti from the Louvre, is attached).

With all the bronze and easier and harder at the same time. Her most frequently counterfeited. That is why the whole bronze usually done immediately materialovedcheskyaa examination. On the other hand, patina poddelschiki make a rough, tough, lengthy, trying to hide its coarseness work. Almost never forge bronze inlaid with other metals, which had been circulated in Egypt, but very difficult to manufacture. It is not tailored to the so-called "black bronze", replacing its usual in cases where the reasons for the ritual can only special material. The market the false Egyptian bronzes, old style and primitive and the ridiculous - the sea.

It is more difficult with FANS and glass. It is now pouring in Egypt, mostly on the matrix with real objects. But poddelschikov severe problems with a layer of glazed porcelain and with the most weight. Weight yellowish, not white; icing fluid, in violation of colors taken from the matrix items are not reported, "hard", angular. I will not mention that are written as "hieroglyphic" texts on these things. Realizing that quality can not be glazed, recently began to do things with "damaged" icing, washing her almost white hot. But here, basically, very serious mistakes in coloring. What - will not speak

With glass, by the way, is connected one of the most famous forgeries of Egyptian art - the blue "head of Tutankhamun", which again caught the Louvre. Monument to a famous, very beautiful, went down in a lot of catalogs, appeared on the cover of the classic Sorbonne "History of Ancient Egypt" N. Grimalya, despite the apparent inconsistencies in the headdress. After a terrible scandal in 2002, he quietly disappeared from the exhibition and was "forgotten". In fact, it is the fruit of hysteria, the Louvre, which in 40-70 years. XX century with incredible speed buy amarnskie monuments, trying to quickly sformirovaat new hall on the "fashionable" topic around Akhenaten and Tutankhamun. By the way, has also been proved a forgery with the help of material science expertise, and there also was found in steel ...

Almost never fake papyrus, cloth (very difficult and probably not worth it). Tree false is not very much, but it happens much more frequently than papyrus. Separate topic - clay. Ceramic fakes, like pottery, in Egypt a lot. Most recently, in the Brooklyn Museum opened an exhibition of the imitation of the Coptic museum's collection. They are many. Been acquired were once in a great hurry, the whole collection. Problematical purchase to find out when a few years ago, the curator of the Egyptian collection of Brooklyn was Edna Rassmann, great art, kuotoraya not afraid to expose forgeries. Details of the exhibition at the museum site large number of "Coptic" fakes because there is no "high style" art of the pharaohs which is very difficult counterfeited.

This is a kind of overview of the most egregious cases. Here is a review of these cases and general impressions on the issue. probably would be correct if will be some questions on the topic. I will try to the best of its ability, to answer them.
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Thank you very much, and what are the sales results were? And as the crisis has affected this market segment?
Results for those sites that I mentioned:
1. Head era Tutmosidov - $ 272.500
2. The head of Osiris - $ 56,250
3. Inlay person - $ 158.500
4. Statuette of a priest - $ 164.500
5. Fragment statue ladies - $ 50,000
6. Queen Arsinoe - not sold

In general, this segment of the market crisis is not particularly affected. Segment rare, very beautiful, intelligent, energetic and very popular in Europe and especially in the United States. I do not always look at the results of bidding, because for me, as Egyptologists and experts, the main interest is themselves monuments. If you are interested, then I make occasional announcements of the most, in my opinion, interesting Egyptian lots from the auction the auctioneer. There are three well-known and top the lot, for the year 2005. Some links:

"Sotheby's, November 2008
"Sotheby's, June 2008"
sarcophagus and mummy Neshonsu. Christie, December 2006
"Christy, November 2006"
"Christie, December 2005, top Egyptian Trade - Statue Kanefera (pictured) for $ 2 816 000"
"Christy", December 2005, a collection of family Harer and the statue of Queen Mut Tuyi (pictured) for $ 2 256 000
"Sotheby's, June 2005, the head of Amenhotep III (pictured) for $ 482 500

Official statistics of the house Sotheby's (New York) in Egypt:
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If you are interested, then I make occasional announcements of the most, in my opinion, interesting Egyptian lots from the auction the auctioneer.
It is interesting to many, many thanks for your comments.



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Viktor Solkin,'ll show about the sale of products of ancient Egypt from the solid rock of stone: granite, calcite. And as they (the Egyptians) did, especially hollow vases.



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To begin, I would not call particularly calcite solid rock of stone. Moreover, the variety of stone can not be a determining factor in the area of interest to the monument, unless this is not a precious stone, in the case of Egypt - is excluded. Decisive here are the artistic level, age /ancient, rare iconography or special provenance of the monument. Naturally, a sculptural piece of granite there will be a substantial priority to, for example, granite vessel. Specific examples you can look for links to reviews of auctions, which I cited above.

Concerning the question "how they did it, apparently arising in line with the abundance of" technological "charlatans around the modern native Egyptology and around the heritage of ancient Egypt as a whole: it is not a question format forum. I would recommend you an excellent modern edition, in which you interesting aspect of processing, technology and manufacturing vessels examined in most detail worthy authors: Shaw I., Nicholson P. Ancient Egyptian Materials and Technology. Cambridge, 2009 - 2 nd Edition



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